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A Quick Poll EBU; Club; IMPs

#1 User is offline   PeterAlan 

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Posted 2016-January-26, 05:51

IMPs (EBU club teams night).



You're W, a good club player. Natural Acol-style bidding; the alert of S's 2 was just because it promises 4; S could have 4 s and 4 s, but will then be 15+ HCP.

  • What calls do you consider?

  • Which call do you make?

(If you wouldn't have bid 3 on the previous round, please indicate.)

PS: The Alert was what happened at the table - it is not required by regulation. Please don't concern yourselves with it.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 06:35

1) pass
2) pass
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2016-January-26, 06:45

View Posteagles123, on 2016-January-26, 06:35, said:

1) pass
2) pass

Agreed. West has completely told his story.

But that alert rule was funny (if it really is a regulation).
In my world South would have (support) doubled with 3 hearts (and passed with less) so he must have exactly 4 since he didn't open with a 1 bid.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 06:58

View Postpran, on 2016-January-26, 06:45, said:

Agreed. West has completely told his story.

But that alert rule was funny (if it really is a regulation).
In my world South would have (support) doubled with 3 hearts (and passed with less) so he must have exactly 4 since he didn't open with a 1 bid.


It seems to me that if support doubles are being played an alert here is sensible, though I don't know whether it is required by regulation.

I would consider and bid only pass, but not happily as I have badly misdescribed my hand with the 3 bid.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 08:04

At these colors and in the passout seat, I will briefly consider 4 before passing.
Life is long and beautiful, if bad things happen, good things will follow.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 08:07

View PostVampyr, on 2016-January-26, 06:58, said:

It seems to me that if support doubles are being played an alert here is sensible, though I don't know whether it is required by regulation.

I would consider and bid only pass, but not happily as I have badly misdescribed my hand with the 3 bid.


What would you rather have bid opposite a passed hand 1 overcall ?

Also slightly relevant to this is what partner can't have (ie what a 2 opener would have shown, and how aggressively they open). I can't imagine bidding here, particularly if partner's pass wasn't in tempo.

Yes partner might have KQxxx, xxx, xx, Qx or similar and we might have a good save available, but once I've bid 3 I need to live with it, if I was going to bid 4 I did it last time.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 08:55

What are the agreements on overcalls? It makes quite some difference if EW play weak jumps, in which case 1 shows a decent hand with values and double would certainly be an option, otherwise pass is a more than reasonable choice. But there might be players who would go to 4, given the vulnerability, especially when E has a habit of making very weak overcalls.
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Posted 2016-January-26, 19:29

View PostPeterAlan, on 2016-January-26, 05:51, said:


IMPs (EBU club teams night).
You're W, a good club player. Natural Acol-style bidding; the alert of S's 2 was just because it promises 4; S could have 4 s and 4 s, but will then be 15+ HCP.
  • What calls do you consider?
  • Which call do you make?
(If you wouldn't have bid 3 on the previous round, please indicate.)
PS: The Alert was what happened at the table - it is not required by regulation. Please don't concern yourselves with it.
Peter, you might get a wider response, it you inserted a proper poll -- preferably one where you can see who voted for what.

On the previous round, you might prefer 2N to show a near maximum pass, with 4-card support, and some defence. (3 and 3 would have shown a 3-card raises, focusing on the better suit).
If you had previously described your hand, you would probably choose to pass, now.
Having previously misdescribed your hand, you might consider 4 too, now.
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Posted 2016-January-27, 02:12

View PostVampyr, on 2016-January-26, 06:58, said:

I would consider and bid only pass, but not happily as I have badly misdescribed my hand with the 3 bid.

I don't think 3S is a mis-description opposite a passed-hand overcall, and I pass now.
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Posted 2016-January-27, 05:15

View PostPeterAlan, on 2016-January-26, 05:51, said:


  • What calls do you consider?

  • Which call do you make?




I consider but discard 4 Spades - I Pass.
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Posted 2016-January-27, 05:43

I pass, only consider pass, and when I phoned a friend, Brother Anthony, he passed too.
I prefer to give the lawmakers credit for stating things for a reason - barmar
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Posted 2016-January-27, 15:40

My thanks to all who contributed. This thread has completely fulfilled the purpose I had in mind when I posted the OP, and I'm very grateful to you all.
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