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Alternative use for a redundant bid? 1NT - 2C - 2X 3C vs 1NT- 2S - 3C - P

#1 User is offline   Liversidge 

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Posted 2015-December-16, 04:45

We play Acol, Stayman and Transfers with a 2 after partner's 1NT being a transfer to a long minor. That seems to leave 1NT - 2 - 2X - 3redundant. Is there any good alternative use for this sequence?
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Posted 2015-December-16, 05:33

It's not redundant.

Really old school is a 1426 5 count type - to play, but will play 2 if partner has 4

You can play it as similar shape but invitational or forcing or you can use it as some sort of other club hand (what is 1N-3 ?).
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Posted 2015-December-16, 05:37

it's strong with clubs and a major that partner didn't bid.
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Posted 2015-December-17, 09:30

I agree with wank. We play:
1NT 2 2 3/ shows 4 Spades and 5 / game-forcing
1NT 2 2 3/ shows 4 Hearts and 5 / game-forcing

Along with this, we play 4-way transfers (2NT is a transfer to 3), so to show an invitational hand (9 HCPs or 8 HCPs with a 5-card suit), we start with a 2 bid, then rebid 2NT. This sequence does not promise any 4-card Major.
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Posted 2015-December-17, 10:03

It used to be be extended stayman asking for three card majors
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Posted 2015-December-18, 11:51

View PostLiversidge, on 2015-December-16, 04:45, said:

We play Acol, Stayman and Transfers with a 2 after partner's 1NT being a transfer to a long minor. That seems to leave 1NT - 2 - 2X - 3redundant. Is there any good alternative use for this sequence?

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Posted 2015-December-18, 11:52

When 2 is used as a weak transfer response to either minor, it is standard that Stayman followed by 3 or 3 is natural and forcing, showing 4 cards in an unbid major and 5+ cards in the minor suit bid.
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