[helene_t]

1eyedjack, on 2015-October-03, 16:35, said:

The irony is that they got a perfectly good result.

Oh yes, I didn't notice. To be fair, the spade lead is not easy to find.

[ayebee]

zgrywus, on 2015-October-03, 15:20, said:

Steve2005 wrote: The person who bids 4N Blackwood is in charge (this is called being the Captain) if they said 5♠ you should respect that and pass.

Bilw55 wrote: Technically, your partner's bidding does mean that he wants to play in 5♠, and so you should pass.


Really? Always thought tt 4Nt agreed hearts in that sequence. If so 5 spades can not be passed.
Agreed w Bilw55: Booted the wrong player.

Many players (in the UK at least) play that in that sequence 4NT agrees hearts as the suit for the purposes of the RKCB enquiry only i.e the king of hearts is the 5th keycard and that a return to the Blackwood instigators original suit is to play.

Playing ordinary Blackwood rather than RKCB it doesn't matter what trumps is - rather than agreeing responder's suit it simply means that opener know what trumps should be.


However with a pick up partner I would prefer to find an unambiguous bid - yet another reason why the precipitous 4NT bid is ill chosen.

[phil_20686]

helene_t, on 2015-October-04, 07:39, said:

Oh yes, I didn't notice. To be fair, the spade lead is not easy to find.

A spade lead doesnt help? Win, club to K heart K gives you 2s 5h 4c for 11 tricks. Which is all you can ever make.

[rmnka447]

phil_20686, on 2015-November-02, 09:37, said:

A spade lead doesnt help? Win, club to K heart K gives you 2s 5h 4c for 11 tricks. Which is all you can ever make.

As it turns out, North has a second ♥ stop with the ♥ 8 holding ♥ A8xxx. So only 4 ♥ tricks are available and you need a ♦ trick to make. The timing is such that a ♠ trick can be set up to cash before both ♥ A and ♦ A can be driven out.

Practically, 5 NT will make most of the time as divining a ♠ lead from ♠ Q106 with RHO the ♠ bidder is very difficult. I know I probably wouldn't find it on this bidding.