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#1 User is offline   yunling 

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Posted 2015-September-20, 12:50


West led A and switched to a trump.
Not a difficult problem, but I got it wrong at the table again :(
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Posted 2015-September-20, 14:47

Win, AK, heart Q?

Win, AK, trump to the table, Q to park a club, small club to the K.

The problem is spades 3-1 with West long in spades.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2015-September-20, 14:49

Or... Win. heart to cover whatever East plays :)

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2015-September-21, 13:28


yunling wrote "West led A and switched to a trump. Not a difficult problem, but I got it wrong at the table again :("

Join the club :(

My guess: Cover with dummy's 9. If East covers win in hand. Exit with Q (hoping that West has K). Intending to ruff 2s in dummy, making 7 X and 3 X .

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Posted 2015-September-21, 15:54

No obvious problems if trumps are 2-2 if you pitch a club on Q. Assuming the opponents lead A from AK, I would win the the trump switch cheaply, cash AK and lead Q. If trumps aren't 2-2, and west continues with a trump, win in dummy, cash Q and pitch a club. Play a club to the K. If East wins, you can ruff 2 hearts in dummy. If West wins, and plays a 3rd trump, you can try a ruffing finesse in clubs, eventually pitching 1 heart and ruffing the other.
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Posted 2015-September-27, 10:58

The full hand:


Johnnu's line turned up to be the winning one.
Since we can suppose west started with HK(or defence could have won the second heart and put you to a guess in clubs already so better not to worry about that), the main problem is the 3-1 trump split.
In fact I won the lead with 9, led a heart to Q. West won with K and led another trump, and the contract is doomed, when west can discard a diamond on the last round of hearts and ruffed my Q.
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Posted 2015-September-27, 14:01


Yunling wrote "The full hand:. Johnnu's line turned up to be the winning one. Since we can suppose west started with HK(or defence could have won the second heart and put you to a guess in clubs already so better not to worry about that), the main problem is the 3-1 trump split. In fact I won the lead with 9, led a heart to Q. West won with K and led another trump, and the contract is doomed, when west can discard a diamond on the last round of hearts and ruffed my Q."

I like YunLing's unsuccessful line. Johnu's line is good but fails too. As the cards lie, the winning line is to ruff out West's tripleton AKx.

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Posted 2015-September-27, 19:24

Its a pretty good line to just win the spade in dummy and play a heart at once, covering east's card. Here, assuming that east plays the J of hearts, west wins and plays a spade. Then you can win the second spade cheaply in hand, and use the diamonds as transport to ruff two hearts. This works whenever the person with 3 hearts has 4 diamonds. Since you are missing 8 diamonds, that's 1/3 that the diamonds are 4-4, 1/2 that they are 5-3, and 1/4 of the rest (since you need no ruffs if diamonds 6-2 or worse), making it about 60% of 3-1 breaks.

As it happens, that fails.

The second line that I thought of is to win the spade cheaply in hand, then play AK of diamonds and exit with the heart Q. If lho continues a second spade, win in dummy, and if the spades are 3-1 play the diamond Q pitching a club and then a club. This will win on 3-1 spade breaks where either of the heart K or the club ace is with the singleton spade, and if all that fails, you can still take the ruffing club finesse. This needs diamonds no worse than 5-3 (since if its 6-2 they can probably arrange to ruff the diamond Q with trumps 2-2 and that is basically game over), so its about 7/8 * 0.8 = 65% of 3-1 breaks, but less a little bit because some 2-2 spade breaks can arrange to beat you either because the diamonds are 7-1 or 6-2.

As it happens that also fails.
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