[manudude03]

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MPs scoring, weak field. I posted "part 1" of this on bridgewinners and the majority seemed to agree with my decision to double. Partner didn't exactly make the bid I was hoping for. What do you do now?

[nige1]

mandude03 asks "MPs scoring, weak field. I posted "part 1" of this on bridgewinners and the majority seemed to agree with my decision to double. Partner didn't exactly make the bid I was hoping for. What do you do now?"

I rank
1. Pass. You've made your (partner's) bed ...
2. 3♦ Same-level conversion?
3. 3♠ Hoping to rightside 3N.
4. 3N Current fashion is cavalier about stops.
5. 3♥ Mistates both hand-strength and heart-length.

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[WesleyC]

Partner should have a 6c club suit (or a very good 5c suit) for the jump to 3C so i'm not concerned about playing in 3C.

So the only choice here is between pass and 3S (asking for spade stopper). At MPs, holding a decent spade stopper, partner would usually lean towards bidding 1NT/2NT themselves so I think i'll take the low road and pass 3C.

[WellSpyder]

WesleyC, on 2015-September-09, 00:51, said:

Partner should have a 6c club suit (or a very good 5c suit) for the jump to 3C.

Really? How else does he show reasonable values if his only suit is clubs?

Strangely enough I saw exactly this auction by oppo at the table in last night's match. The 3 ♣ bidder had ♠J96♥KJ10♦J6♣Q9754

[WesleyC]

WellSpyder, on 2015-September-09, 09:47, said:

Really? How else does he show reasonable values if his only suit is clubs?

Strangely enough I saw exactly this auction by oppo at the table in last night's match. The 3 ♣ bidder had ♠J96♥KJ10♦J6♣Q9754

In order to be able to double on this kind of hand, you have to give something up. Given you know that partner might stretch to double without good support for both minors, it makes sense to be conservative when advancing the minors, especially at MPs.

Partner can bid 2C with up to 10 HCP if game prospects looks grim. Alternatively 1NT, 2NT and 2S are all available.

Bidding 3C on the hand that you've suggested is completely insane. Even if your side has 25 HCP (in which case partner will bid again over 2C) what game are you hoping to make?

[jdonn]

I fully agree with the first double, and obviously you pass here. Maybe it's not an amazing contract but it rates to be a reasonable one, and where exactly could we go anyway?

[Jinksy]

WellSpyder, on 2015-September-09, 09:47, said:

Really? How else does he show reasonable values if his only suit is clubs?

Strangely enough I saw exactly this auction by oppo at the table in last night's match. The 3 ♣ bidder had ♠J96♥KJ10♦J6♣Q9754

Well 'leaning' is not the same as 'always bidding', but what's wrong with 2♠? Presumably it's minor-oriented (or extra-strong), since he could have bid 3♥ with four of them. On your hand I'd probably bid 1N, esp at MPs.

[BillPatch]

Look, I don't like the probable 5-2 club fit, but at least we're not doubled. If partner may feel that 8 high cards with one probably wasted in spades and a q-fifth suit are enough to jump in clubs, why go up a level? Even if he is a sound bidder, why go up a level on a misfit hand? That lesson suitable for beginners, though the off-shape double all of us here have approved probably is not a suitable example hand there.

[rmnka447]

I don't know that I'd make a double with this hand, but given the circumstances I'll pass.

If you bid 3 ♦ or 3 ♥, I think you're showing a strong overcall (16+) hand.

If you bid 3 ♠ asking for a stopper for NT, then you're committing yourself to a 4 level contract if partner has no stopper. But partner has already had a chance to show a stopper by bidding NT, but didn't. Partner also didn't make a 2 ♠ cue showing values. So though 3 ♣ is positive, how good a hand can it be? And you also need to consider the minimum it can be.

I think partner having the hand that makes 3 NT is considerably less frequent than hands where 3 ♣ has a reasonable play. Even with hands where partner has a ♠ stopper, 3 NT may not be a make. If they attack ♠, then you'll probably need to run enough tricks to make 9 tricks once your stopper is forced out or go down.