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#1 User is offline   wank 

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Posted 2015-August-17, 12:58

Imps favourable vul

Akqx
Xx
Kx
Qtxxx

3d on your right. Your go
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Posted 2015-August-17, 13:42

Pass in tempo. Partner still has a call. If it passes out, I can live with defending 3.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 14:41

Clear pass.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 15:41

Didn't we have this hand years ago?, its a 3 overcall.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 15:49

View PostFluffy, on 2015-August-17, 15:41, said:

Didn't we have this hand years ago?, its a 3 overcall.


I think it was a little stronger, but standards are slipping.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 16:04

View PostFluffy, on 2015-August-17, 15:41, said:

Didn't we have this hand years ago?, its a 3 overcall.

If you are going to bid 3, would it not be better to do it via a Double to show the clubs at the same time? B-)
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Posted 2015-August-18, 09:36

Marshall Miles, back in the day, would have loved to be able to overcall 3, and I think one of Meckwell did something similar once. I have a LOT of respect for the overcall, but the only way I would do it would be if I had a club in with my spades.

I pass, but I do so knowing that this is probably me being too chicken, for the millionth time.

Btw, 3 is infinitely better than double, imo. Wtf do we do over a 3 or 4 advance? Over 4 we pass, since partner either has long hearts or shortish spades (with both majors he bids 4) but he'd bid 3 with 4=4 or 4=5 majors and a modest hand.
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Posted 2015-August-22, 10:50

PASS

BUT if I was going to guess I prefer 3n to 3s. Sure the spades are great but spades will far too often NOT be the proper place to play even if it is our hand. x is horrific (mikeh) since it leaves us in a cold dark place with a 3/4 heart advance while we can happily accept a transfer to 4h if we begin with 3n. In case you think I am in love with 3n forgetaboutit. IMHO
P = 9 3n=3 3s=2 4c = 1.5.
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Posted 2015-August-23, 06:02

View Postmikeh, on 2015-August-18, 09:36, said:

Btw, 3 is infinitely better than double, imo. Wtf do we do over a 3 or 4 advance? Over 4 we pass, since partner either has long hearts or shortish spades (with both majors he bids 4) but he'd bid 3 with 4=4 or 4=5 majors and a modest hand.

We'd bid 3NT, implying a flexible hand with (probably) four spades. I don't think we've got the values for that, but we have approximately the right shape for it.

I agree with pass. I don't see anything special about this hand, with so few of the high cards in the long suit. Make it AKQx xx xx KQ10xx and I'd be a lot more interested in bidding (though I haven't decided what I'd bid yet).

... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2015-August-25, 10:51

partner has a 5224 7 count with the ak of clubs. obviously 1 swallow doesn't make a summer but on this hand 4 spades and 3 diamonds make, whereas 3nt is off the heart suit and the ace of diamonds.

i didn't hold the hand, but would be tempted by 3 spades. as to whether or not i would man up and bid it at the table, i think it's close but maybe not quite there.
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Posted 2015-August-26, 08:31

Pass>X>3S

I dont consider it a close decision for me.
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