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Has U.S. Democracy Been Trumped? Bernie Sanders wants to know who owns America?

#5481 User is offline   PassedOut 

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Posted Yesterday, 11:39

View PostZelandakh, on 2017-March-27, 09:31, said:

You are joking right? Surely noone who has any idea about international healthcare can really believe something like this. :lol:

If one can afford insurance and is selective, one can get good care here. Our family uses the Mayo Clinic for anything serious. But the overall statistics for outcomes in the US fall far below those of more advanced nations.

It was common when traveling to get questions or comments about US healthcare along the lines of WTF? Now though, the WTF questions are about Trump.
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Posted Yesterday, 11:52

View Postbarmar, on 2017-March-27, 08:27, said:

I've never been able to fully understand my healthcare options. Whether I've had employer-supplied insurance or I've been self-insured, they've always given me a menu of different plans to choose from. Employers generally just have a few options (HMO versus PPO, high or low deductibles), while the market place has lots of options. The websites have options to compare them, but figuring out the priority between feature A, feature B, and price is difficult. In the end I just guess.


Even in the relatively simple situation I inhabit right now, the benefits are confusing. I definitely did not say the system is understandable, mostly it isn't. But I have been happy with the care that I get, and one way or another most thinigs seem to get covered

It certainly would be nice to understand what I have. I don't. But it seems to work out.
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Posted Yesterday, 17:27

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The usa has the best health care



View PostZelandakh, on 2017-March-27, 09:31, said:

You are joking right? Surely noone who has any idea about international healthcare can really believe something like this. :lol:

For the 30% with cadillac plans that statement is probably true. At the top level for the top 1% the USA certainly has the best healthcare. For the 25% at the bottom the USA may have nearly the worst healthcare among the industrialized world.
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In the 25 years that I served in the United States Congress, Republicans never, ever, one time agreed on what a health care proposal should look like. Not once. And all this happy talk that went on in November and December and January about repeal, repeal, repeal — yeah, we’ll do replace, replace — I started laughing.
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Posted Today, 09:11

View Postkenberg, on 2017-March-27, 11:52, said:

It certainly would be nice to understand what I have. I don't. But it seems to work out.

That's basically my point. Except for people with special needs, the details don't make all that much difference. If you're generally healthy, you go with low premiums, high deductibles, and moderate reimbursement for routine care; if you expect to have significant medical expenses, you choose higher premiums that pay medical expenses in full.

It's like picking a college to go to or deciding where to live. People agonize over these decisions when they have to make them, but in most cases you'll be happy with whatever you choose -- you can usually weed out the choices that would be a really bad fit.

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