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Ability Ratings How players asess their bridge ability

#1 User is offline   jmcilkley 

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Posted 2015-August-17, 06:27

On BBO players assess their own bridge standard as novice, beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert or world class. It seems to me that these self-ratings have recently become more optimistically high. I have always encountered a few "experts" who are totally incompetent but now it seems that "advanced" players are barewly what I would call "intermediate"
How should people assess themselves?
It seems to me that intermediate is the middle category and that should include most of the players who play regularly at any bridge club. They know how to play standard systems be it sayc or acol or whatever and they know how to play their cards reasonably well. Advanced players should therefore be better than this - probably in the top 20% of their club. They should bid well and play their cards well. They should be able to play more than just one basic system and understnd more advance features of the game such as cue bidding, trial bids, ucb, signalling and discards. Expert players should be regular winners at club level and would be expected to play in their clubs first team of 8 and be able to acquit themselves well in regional tournaments .
World class is self explanatory -they should have played internationally and certainly have represented their region , state or county.
At the lower end, novices are still learning and will make many mistakes, Beginners should know their basic bidding system and be able to apply it without too many errors.

What do you think? On my basis many BBO players need to downgrade themselves!
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Posted 2015-August-17, 06:56

View Postjmcilkley, on 2015-August-17, 06:27, said:

What do you think? On my basis many BBO players need to downgrade themselves!


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Posted 2015-August-17, 07:15

yes you are correct about self-rating. it has been discussed to death, see above for other post

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Posted 2015-August-17, 07:19

View Postjmcilkley, on 2015-August-17, 06:27, said:

On BBO players assess their own bridge standard as novice, beginner, intermediate, advanced, expert or world class. It seems to me that these self-ratings have recently become more optimistically high.

Recently?
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Posted 2015-August-17, 15:50

Just looked at a random line of 20 on line players. These are the %.

Expert 30%
Advanced: 30%
Intermediate: 20%
Private: 10%
World Class: 5%
Novice; 5%
Beginner: 0%

Aren't we lucky to have such a high standard a of players on BBO? I suppose all the intermediates are playing in the Spingold and in Brighton.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 16:12

The last I saw you were also self-rating as an expert Mike. Perhaps you do that to keep up with the Joneses and all but I am not sure you are best placed to be making this complaint. You know as well as I do that there are no genuine experts in our little online club (aside from very occasional visitors such as Coch Draig).
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Posted 2015-August-18, 03:37

View PostZelandakh, on 2015-August-17, 16:12, said:

The last I saw you were also self-rating as an expert Mike. Perhaps you do that to keep up with the Joneses and all but I am not sure you are best placed to be making this complaint. You know as well as I do that there are no genuine experts in our little online club (aside from very occasional visitors such as Coch Draig).


You are right Zel, the irony of the OP is astonishing.
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Posted 2015-August-18, 09:30

FYI, here are the percentages of users who have logged in in the past year:

+--------------+------+
| level        | pct  |
+--------------+------+
| Private      |   24 |
| Novice       |    5 |
| Beginner     |   10 |
| Intermediate |   31 |
| Advanced     |   20 |
| Expert       |    9 |
| World Class  |    1 |
+--------------+------+


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Posted 2015-August-18, 11:36

View Postbarmar, on 2015-August-18, 09:30, said:

FYI, here are the percentages of users who have logged in in the past year:

+--------------+------+
| level        | pct  |
+--------------+------+
| Private      |   24 |
| Novice   	|    5 |
| Beginner 	|   10 |
| Intermediate |   31 |
| Advanced 	|   20 |
| Expert   	|    9 |
| World Class  |    1 |
+--------------+------+



IRC the distribution has been more distorted towards Experts a few years ago. So I think things have improved.
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