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#1 User is offline   mike777 

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Posted 2015-August-15, 21:58

If I understand it......



in 2nd quarter there is an appeal.

the decision given at end very end of match is 2 imps.

If correct this feels wrong to not be given decision earlier.

Not clear but perhaps this decision was in fact given earlier.....if so ok
the timing is not clear....

http://www.acbl.org/...lletins/db9.pdf

"There was, however, an appeal of a ruling on a
board played in the second quarter of the match. The
issue was a break in tempo, on which the tournament
director called to the table made no adjustment. The
appeals committee overturned the director’s ruling,
a decision that cost the Schwartz team 2 IMPs.
Schwartz’s 113-112 victory turned into a 112-111
win for Cayne.
In the other quarterfinal matches, the Lavazza"
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Posted 2015-August-16, 07:21

This has been discussed extensively on Bridge Winners. See http://bridgewinners...tz-cayne-match/

There are points to be made for holding the committee meeting immediately. However, the prevailing view is that there is no reason to use the dinner break for a committee meeting that may not be necessary. The result of the match may make the amount in controversy on the potential appeal irrelevant.

As far as knowing the result of the appeal earlier possibly influencing the play of the players later in the match, that might be true if a large swing were involved, but that is not the case here. At most, the appeal might have changed the table result by 2 IMPs in one direction or, less likely, 3 IMPs in the other direction.
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Posted 2015-August-16, 20:29

Where was the BIT? Was it the passed hand when bidding 3?
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Posted 2015-August-17, 03:28

EDIT: Rubish.

Reading the AC on today's bulletin, they ruled that 5 bid was based on missinformation, Fisher explained that EW's agreements regarding forcing pass afected their agreements towards forcing passes over 5. AC ruled the board result back to 5 making.

South seemed focused on west bidding over a non forcing pass situation based on UI, so I can udnerstand why he only remembered that a forcing pass would change their agreements after Directors ruling and not before.

However why is a forcing pass alertable?, specially after a game forcing cuebid.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 13:09

The ACBL alert regulation says "highly unusual and unexpected" passes (among other things) require an alert. Whether this particular pass meets that criterion I can't say.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 14:16

IMO if south has those rare agreements where opps FP changeshis own FP he should protect himself and ask.
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Posted 2015-August-17, 15:59

No need to ask if your mates on the committee will help you out is there? ;)
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