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Dealing with 3-level intervention

#1 User is offline   kereru67 

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Posted 2015-August-04, 01:53

After partner's 1, RHO bids 3 (presumably weak with 6 or 7 cards). How should the various responses be treated? Are 3 and 3 forcing? Is double negative or for penalties? How would you express slam interest without over-committing? In general, are methods for combating 3-level intervention covered by standard bidding systems, or would it require some kind of partnership agreement?
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Posted 2015-August-04, 04:56

I think you should have partnership agreements, but whether you have parnership agreements on general competitive bidding, opponents 3-level jump overcalls, or the specific sequence 1D--(3C) is up to you. I think you can get pretty far with general competitive bidding agreements, perhaps something like:

- Responder's new suit at the 3-level is forcing (usually to game).
- Double is for take-out, promising constructive values.
- Supporting opener's suit is competitive.

You probably would need more rules (cue bids at the 2-level, 3-level and 4-level, jumps in new suits etc) but with the agreements above:

1D--(3C)---
Pass = Natural or penalty pass (hoping opener can balance with a double)
Dbl = Take-out, probably holding at least one four card major (probably both). Should show at least invitational values.
3D = Competitive
3M = Natural 5+ suit, forcing
3NT = To play
4C = Undefined, but I would assume both majors choice of games which can not stand to play 3D doubled
4D = Undefined, but I would assume slam interest with support
4M = Undefined, I would assume natural and suggestion to play
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Posted 2015-August-04, 05:41

 Kungsgeten, on 2015-August-04, 04:56, said:

I think you should have partnership agreements, but whether you have parnership agreements on general competitive bidding, opponents 3-level jump overcalls, or the specific sequence 1D--(3C) is up to you. I think you can get pretty far with general competitive bidding agreements, perhaps something like:

- Responder's new suit at the 3-level is forcing (usually to game).
- Double is for take-out, promising constructive values.
- Supporting opener's suit is competitive.

You probably would need more rules (cue bids at the 2-level, 3-level and 4-level, jumps in new suits etc) but with the agreements above:

1D--(3C)---
Pass = Natural or penalty pass (hoping opener can balance with a double)
Dbl = Take-out, probably holding at least one four card major (probably both). Should show at least invitational values.
3D = Competitive
3M = Natural 5+ suit, forcing
3NT = To play
4C = Undefined, but I would assume both majors choice of games which can not stand to play 3D doubled
4D = Undefined, but I would assume slam interest with support
4M = Undefined, I would assume natural and suggestion to play


My actual hand was 4 AQT652 J42 AQ3. I bid 3, hoping my partner would take it as forcing. My partner was a competent player
but unfortunately we'd only played with each other once before. He passed, and I made 6.
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Posted 2015-August-07, 19:51

 kereru67, on 2015-August-04, 05:41, said:

My partner was a competent player

I disagree with this assessment.
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"
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Posted 2015-August-12, 04:59

+1 and LOL for mgoetze :)
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