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(1C)-1S-(2C)-X What should it mean?

Poll: (1C)-1S-(2C)-X What should it mean? (25 member(s) have cast votes)

(1C)-1S-(2C)-X What should it mean?

  1. Hearts & Diamonds *Responsive/takeout) (22 votes [88.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 88.00%

  2. Transfer to Diamonds (other bids also a transfer) (2 votes [8.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 8.00%

  3. Support for Spades (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Penalty of 2C (1 votes [4.00%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.00%

  5. Other (please specify) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   steve2005 

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Posted 2015-July-09, 12:00

Question after u have overcalled 1S. (1C)-1S-(2C)-X What should it mean?

Have another meaning please comment and I will add.
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Posted 2015-July-09, 13:31

I am suspicious that we are not being told something about the 1 opening bid, because this question is under non-natural system discussion.
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Posted 2015-July-09, 14:22

its the transfer to diamond option that is not natural
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Posted 2015-July-12, 03:33

Supposing all the rest is natural, X is likely understood as a t/o for the reds (or could be either red with a S tolerance as a back up in case pard bids the other) with decent values considering the bidding (good 8 at least eg Qx Kxxxx Kxxx xx or Kx QJxx Axxx xxx).
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Posted 2015-July-12, 14:13

I like playing transfers there, with X = diamonds, 2 = hearts, 2 = constructive raise, 2 = competing.

That's very useful when responder puts some pressure on with a (3) or (4).

The problem of course is potentially missing a 4-4 heart fit. To minimize that chance, we tend to X instead of overcall with most (54)xx hands, and we play Raptor so if partner has shown a minor, say here (1) 2 (2), not having overcalled 1NT he will rarely have 4 spades.
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Posted 2015-July-17, 14:35

Transfers are pretty, but I agree, we DO need a bid to show 4h. I'd like to include a voting option where the double shows 4h, or maybe a decent spade raise (with 2S as weaker). Happy to use 2D as a transfer, or to swap 2D and 2H.
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