[apollo1201]

All nonvul, IMPs, the dealer opens the bidding with 3D, you hold

Kx
Jxx
Kxx
JTxxx

Maybe a few 8s and 9s in the x but not a too fancy hand, I guess we all agree to pass. RHO does the same but partner protects with a double. In this position, he usually has at minimum a decent opening hand, a bit less with ideal shape maybe.

What do you bid? I am not sure of the vuln, so feel free to modulate your answers ;-)

[mike777]

I will try pass

give pard something close to:

AQxx
AQxx
x
Axxx

give 3d bidder something close to:

xxx
xx
AQJTxxx
x
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granted if pard has more we may make 6c.

[gszes]

A lot of things to think about when making these decisions. rho usually has around 8 hcp as do you. Of the 24hcp left p has at least his fair share and probably more but the problem is we have no clue how much more. If p is anything close to a minimum we are not ever going to win much by passing and we could lose the match if rho scores up 6 dia and can get 3 tricks from their p 12 11 10 9 8? you begin to see just how scary passing here can be.

Bidding 4c with your hand may not look pretty but it will rarely lose the match and could actually have quite a positive effect on how this hand develops.

4c = 7 pass = 4 3h? = 2

Preempts sometimes work that's why we keep using them.

[nige1]

apollo1201, on 2015-June-15, 15:41, said:

All nonvul, IMPs, the dealer opens 3D, you hold ♠ K x ♥ J x x ♦ K x x ♣ J T x x x
Maybe a few 8s and 9s in the x but not a too fancy hand, I guess we all agree to pass. RHO does the same but partner protects with a double. In this position, he usually has at minimum a decent opening hand, a bit less with ideal shape maybe.
What do you bid? I am not sure of the vuln, so feel free to modulate your answers ;-)

IMO Pass = 10. 3N = 9. 4♣ = 8. All quite close.

[WellSpyder]

nige1, on 2015-June-15, 16:25, said:

IMO Pass = 10. 3N = 9. 4♣ = 8. All quite close.

I think the paucity of responses indicates that no-one knows what to do, not that it isn't a problem! FWIW, I would completely reverse the order of Nigel's choices....

[jdonn]

I think even though it's not clear what will work, 3NT is a very obvious choice. Passing is way too risky, and 4♣ is not nearly ambitious enough. If we are doubled we can always decide to run to 4♣ then.