[WellSpyder]

4S for me.

Does everyone actually play splinters over RHO's double?? I would play 4♣ here as a fit bid....

[KurtGodel]

PhilG007, on 2015-June-07, 00:55, said:

You didn't say what the vulnerability was on the deal. If non vul then definitely 4♠ If,however you are vul,
then 3♠is quite sufficent on this hand. Either way,the intention is to make life as difficult as possible for the doubler's partner.

What is this comment? I bet you my bottom dollar that a sim will say that 4♠ is making more than 37.5% of the time, probably a lot lot more than that. Every time I try and voice my opinion I keep getting this rubbish: 'Action failed: You have reached your quota of negative votes for the day'.

[MrAce]

KurtGodel, on 2015-June-08, 04:58, said:

What is this comment? I bet you my bottom dollar that a sim will say that 4♠ is making more than 37.5% of the time, probably a lot lot more than that. Every time I try and voice my opinion I keep getting this rubbish: 'Action failed: You have reached your quota of negative votes for the day'.

We had both upvotes and down votes available in the past. Then it started to be abused. Both of them were abused but they disabled the downvotes only.
For example there was a certain poster who would come daily just to use her daily quota, she would downvote certain people and upvote the other certain people, regardless of what they write.

[KurtGodel]

MrAce, on 2015-June-08, 08:03, said:

We had both upvotes and down votes available in the past. Then it started to be abused. Both of them were abused but they disabled the downvotes only.
For example there was a certain poster who would come daily just to use her daily quota, she would downvote certain people and upvote the other certain people, regardless of what they write.

Seems like a farce to me, this guy's reputation is 'excellent', whereas I think you know as well as anyone that it is not even slightly excellent.

[billw55]

4♠ is a good choice.
4♣ is a good choice if you are confident your partner will understand. Note that splinter is not universal: one poster here suggested it as a fit bid, and another upvoted that.

Redouble is not a good choice. It hides the primary feature of the hand, which is excellent spade support.
3♠ is not a good choice. Among good players, this is usually used as a weak/preemptive type bid.

I think I would choose 4♣. This may give the ops a little better chance to enter the auction, but also retains our slam chances, which are nontrivial with such wealth of controls and partner still unlimited. Whereas 4♠ is a firm auction ender.

[Winstonm]

Frankly, I had not really thought before about this sequence but it only makes sense (as the double greatly reduces slam changes) to use the splinter bid to help partner evaluate further competitive decisions.

[fourdad]

IMO 3♠ is the choice that most accurately describes the hand.

I play 4♠ as preemptive, which this is clearly not and would value this at 12 playing points max.

2nd would be 4 clubs splinter.

[diana_eva]

fourdad, on 2015-June-08, 11:50, said:

IMO 3♠ is the choice that most accurately describes the hand.

I play 4♠ as preemptive, which this is clearly not and would value this at 12 playing points max.

2nd would be 4 clubs splinter.

Aren't you worried you'll miss game? Or you play 3♠ as forcing?

[case_no_6]

I bid 4S. Both a splinter raise showing club shortness and an invitational raise (e.g., 2NT) are overbids, though the invitational raise is far more misleading that could result in a poorly resulting competitive decision by partner. Even if I have a gadget to make the right value bid (i.e., a mixed raise of spades), I prefer to just make the old-fashioned Goren raise, comforted by the facts that our side seems likely to have little defense (suggested my Axxxx support) and that my 4S bid robs the opponents of the bidding space they likely need to make an intelligent competitive decision. The 4S bid compels the opponents to be making the last guess and that is usually a productive thing to do in a who-knows-what's-right type of competitive auction.

[wank]

case_no_6, on 2015-June-09, 10:01, said:

The 4S bid compels the opponents to be making the last guess

that's one of the meaningless stock forum phrases. if the opps bid 5 something partner can easily have a tricky problem which you've made more difficult by underbidding and not showing your shape.

[sstansmall]

If you bid 4s then you have to X anything they bid over it, if you splinter with 4c you have fear q bidding 4H over 4d by pard. KJxxx, Kx, Ak, xxxx would be enough for a slam and pard will love hearing 4c if he has that. If you count 2 aces as 9 singleton as 3 and 5th trump as 3 your hand is worth 15 in spades.

[MrAce]

diana_eva, on 2015-June-08, 12:41, said:

Aren't you worried you'll miss game? Or you play 3♠ as forcing?

3♠ invitational i guess.