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Posted 2015-May-12, 07:41

W/r at mp you hold

Tx
Akqjtx
Xx
Jxx

The bidding goes p (p) 1h (x) 1n (x)

1n is non forcing

What's best now just want to test my thinking


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Posted 2015-May-12, 07:43

12 cards
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Posted 2015-May-12, 07:48

Edited
"definitely that's what I like to play when I'm playing standard - I want to be able to bid diamonds because bidding good suits is important in bridge" - Meckstroth's opinion on weak 2 diamond
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Posted 2015-May-12, 08:14

They clearly have an eight-card spade fit and at least half of the deck. What is the best way to keep them quiet? Pass maybe?
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Posted 2015-May-12, 08:25

Pass looks like an excellent gamble.
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Posted 2015-May-12, 09:26

I'll start by asking what the double means.

If its penalty pass looks interesting but if it's responsive then I'll bid 2 but ask partner after the hand if he thinks 3 is blocking (I vote no).
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Posted 2015-May-12, 11:14

View PostTramticket, on 2015-May-12, 08:14, said:

They clearly have an eight-card spade fit and at least half of the deck. What is the best way to keep them quiet? Pass maybe?

I think cat out of bag- time bid number of hears willing to compete to.
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Posted 2015-May-12, 12:34

View PostPhil, on 2015-May-12, 09:26, said:

I'll start by asking what the double means.

If its penalty pass looks interesting but if it's responsive then I'll bid 2 but ask partner after the hand if he thinks 3 is blocking (I vote no).


"maximum pass" apparently
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Posted 2015-May-12, 13:14

Pass looks to me like a very random shot at a top or a bottom. Certainly as long as the opponents are still on lead at trick 1, they will see they are in cashout mode.

Call me simple-minded, but I have a minimum with 6 hearts. I rebid 2. If they want to bid spades, they can bid spades. I may not win the event on this hand but I won't lose it on this hand either.
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Posted 2015-May-12, 13:41

I don't see any point in opening this hand 1 third in, esp favourable. I'm probably opening 2, and maybe 3, depending on how much the opps look willing to be pushed around.

We can't imagine game opposite a passed hand unless he's max, good fitting and with a side shortage, in which case he'll surely look at it even after a preemptive opening, so why give the opps extra space?
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Posted 2015-May-12, 14:32

2h

One cannot win every board. 2h is unlikely to cost us the match (jdonn) and it is a much much much safer approach than passing 1n (which will be defended double dummy).

Having said this I also feel 1h is a sort of waste when game will rarely be much better than 50% and usually significantly less. 3n would probably depend on a favorable lead even if partner had a max. IMHO I would not worry about game and just open 3h. It will virtually never be played x and thus any penalty incurred would be hugely unlikely to cost us the match. The upsdie of 3h is that we might win the bidding outright or cause the opps to misjudge. That's a lot of upside vs not much risk.
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Posted 2015-May-13, 03:54

2 H 6-11 weak

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Posted 2015-May-13, 03:56

2 6-11 6H
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Posted 2015-May-13, 05:09

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Posted 2015-May-13, 05:51

Can the advancer's double really mean 'max pass'? I can't visualize a hand where the advancer would want to do that when - say - a hypothetical 2 would send the same message. Partner obviously does not have five spades so the opps have eight.

Under ordinary circumstances - like when the second double is competitive - I'd bid 2 and be done with it, but maybe the aggressor will pass and partner has seven tricks on tap.

Granted, this may not be 'good bridge'...but sometimes good matchpoints is bad bridge.
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Posted 2015-May-13, 06:34

Partner can easily have 4 moderate spades here in my experience.
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Posted 2015-May-13, 06:40

I absolutely hate opening this hand 1H in 3rd W/R - 3H is extremely low risk and puts a lot of pressure on the opponents.
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Posted 2015-May-13, 12:36

Can't answer. 1H would not have been on my radar as an opening bid. I would have opened 3H at favorable vul, 3rd seat, at MPs. 2H is also reasonable if that is available as a weak 2 bid showing only hearts. But I still like 3H.
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Posted 2015-May-14, 00:21

View Posteagles123, on 2015-May-12, 07:41, said:

W/r at mp you hold

Tx
Akqjtx
Xx
Jxx

The bidding goes p (p) 1h (x) 1n (x)

1n is non forcing

What's best now just want to test my thinking


Sorry for no diagram on phone

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Depending on the vulnerability,the choice is between 2 and 3 Whoever holds this
hand must not allow themselves to be seduced by all the pretty pictures.Partner has shown a limited hand. Bid boldly but play safe.


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2's and 3's" - Mollo's Hideous Hog
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Bridge is a game where you have two opponents...and often three(!)


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Posted 2015-May-14, 16:12

Pass no prob may get harder later but bit of a soft question if p gets in he has seven tricks in nts hope you are learning eagles
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