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#1 User is offline   Bbradley62 

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Posted 2015-April-26, 13:13

Opening 2NT = 20-21
Opening 2 then bidding 2N = 22-24
Opening 3NT = 25-27
Apparently, opening 2 then bidding 3N shows the same thing. Certainly, having 28+ balanced doesn't come up often, but what are we supposed to do when it does?


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Posted 2015-April-26, 14:14

2C-2D-4NT shows 28-30 balanced?
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Posted 2015-April-26, 16:03

View Postmanudude03, on 2015-April-26, 14:14, said:

2C-2D-4NT shows 28-30 balanced?

4N over 2D was completely undefined.
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Posted 2015-April-26, 16:28

View PostBbradley62, on 2015-April-26, 16:03, said:

4N over 2D was completely undefined.


http://www.bridgebas...other-30-count/

On that hand, I stopped in 4NT with the auction going 2C-2D-4NT.
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Posted 2015-April-27, 01:21

The problem you discuss can be solved with Kokish relay after opening 2C. Basically after 2D, 2H s a relay forcing 2S, now the 2N rerbid from oening han becomes 25+.
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Posted 2015-April-27, 02:50

Kokish or no Kokish, it does not make sense for 3N opener to have the same definition as 2C-2D-3N. If there really is no distinction, which sequence would GIB choose if holding that hand?
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Posted 2015-April-27, 03:18

View Postmcphee, on 2015-April-27, 01:21, said:

The problem you discuss can be solved with Kokish relay after opening 2C. Basically after 2D, 2H s a relay forcing 2S, now the 2N rerbid from oening han becomes 25+.


The problem you discuss is Gibs don't play that,even though Kokish relay is an excellent option.
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Posted 2015-April-27, 10:51

View Post1eyedjack, on 2015-April-27, 02:50, said:

Kokish or no Kokish, it does not make sense for 3N opener to have the same definition as 2C-2D-3N. If there really is no distinction, which sequence would GIB choose if holding that hand?

Yes, this has been brought up before. If 3N is 25-27 hcp then make 2-2-3N=28-30 hcp balanced.

Either that or make 3N opening something useful and live with rare 2-2-4N as 28-30 hcp balanced (which it isn't even defined now I think)




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