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#1 User is offline   KurtGodel 

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Posted 2015-April-21, 08:57

We are vul, they are not. P deals and passes, RHO bids 2H and that ends the auction. Your guess:
Kxxx Jxxx AQx Kx

You have the additional information that you have the greatest number of points at the table (it's a robot tourney). I think that any non trump lead could be right. Btw the spot cards really are tiny. Your second highest trump is the five, so no complaints of how you can't plan for some ridiculous trump promo.
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Posted 2015-April-21, 09:59

Not in love with a .
K for me. I wanna be a hero! :D
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Posted 2015-April-21, 10:27

spade
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Posted 2015-April-21, 11:29

Q.

One time dealer!
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Posted 2015-April-21, 11:34

A simple lead for me noting that I am leading around to a weak 2 opener so hopefully the chances of dummy having the Q and opener the A aren't great.

EDIT: Of course this could hurt when dummy has the Ace and opener the Q, but I like other leads even less.
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Posted 2015-April-21, 11:44

partner's short in hearts but didn't protect. he's probably got nowt in spades.
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Posted 2015-April-21, 11:47

View PostPhilKing, on 2015-April-21, 11:29, said:

Q.

One time dealer!


Clearly percentage :P
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Posted 2015-April-21, 11:55

View Postwank, on 2015-April-21, 11:44, said:

partner's short in hearts but didn't protect. he's probably got nowt in spades.


partner is a robot it could have anything
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Posted 2015-April-21, 12:07

Dia ace---odds have to be heavy (would not shock me if they are 5-1 or better) either p or dummy has the dia K and (if nothing looks better) continue with a low dia since it might appear to be a doubleton even if the KJ appear in dummy. Spade is all too easily a disaster no matter where the A and Q are.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 03:15

View Postgszes, on 2015-April-21, 12:07, said:

Dia ace---odds have to be heavy (would not shock me if they are 5-1 or better) either p or dummy has the dia K and (if nothing looks better) continue with a low dia since it might appear to be a doubleton even if the KJ appear in dummy. Spade is all too easily a disaster no matter where the A and Q are.


I would lead a trump. Leading from the other suits risks giving away a vitsl trick. If you happen to run through partner's trump honor,that's too bad but it's likely to be a dead duck anyway.
There is an old bridge adage "When in doubt,lead trumps"
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Posted 2015-April-22, 07:14

View PostPhilG007, on 2015-April-22, 03:15, said:

I would lead a trump. Leading from the other suits risks giving away a vitsl trick. If you happen to run through partner's trump honor,that's too bad but it's likely to be a dead duck anyway.
There is an old bridge adage "When in doubt,lead trumps"
Like most mottos in the game,there is more than a grain of truth in it.

I too think a trump is the lead least like to cost something, although IMO the adage of 'when in doubt lead trumps' is not enough of a reason to lead one.

This digresses from the thread topic but it's something I feel strongly about. For a trump lead to work it has to be right; when you lead a trump you are conceding a tempo to declarer. The opening lead is the one advantage the defending side has in the play, and if the defense needs that tempo to build their tricks up before declarer gets his tricks - and they boot it away by leading a trump - there is often no recovery.

I'm not saying a trump lead is never right; I'm saying one needs a good reason to lead one (like when you are 'loaded' in declarer's side suit). "When in doubt" IMO does not qualify.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 09:43

K for me.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 09:55

My instinct is the small spade, but in general my opening leads are pretty unimaginative.

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Posted 2015-April-22, 09:57

I can never get two trump tricks.So I shall lead the Ace of Diamonds to see the dummy and partners card.I know nothing may work as a robot ,the silly machine ,is my partner.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 10:15

I'm leading a spade. Seems like the goal here is not to give away a trick and I think it far more likely that declarer has the DK than that the outstanding spades are favorably placed for declarer. The only reason to prefer the club K over a spade is if you think your partner has club tricks that need to be set up quickly but I don't see where declarer's club losers could be going. You don't want a ruff. A trump could also easily give away a trick.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 11:53

Spade is only lead you need to try to play a forcing game with four hearts, not look for ruffs, kc just silly no offence why you want to ruff with a certain trump trick?
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Posted 2015-April-22, 12:50

ONE SAFE LEAD OF WINNING THAT TRICK IS TO PLAY THE ACE. YOUR PARTNER WILL GIVE YOU A SIGNAL.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 12:56

View Postlaserxox, on 2015-April-22, 12:50, said:

ONE SAFE LEAD OF WINNING THAT TRICK IS TO PLAY THE ACE. YOUR PARTNER WILL GIVE YOU A SIGNAL.

It is good that you are so sure that you used ALL CAPS to SHOUT this.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 13:02

View PostKurtGodel, on 2015-April-21, 08:57, said:

We are vul, they are not. K x x x J x x x A Q x K x
P deals and passes, RHO bids 2H and that ends the auction. You have the additional information that you have the greatest number of points at the table (it's a robot tourney). I think that any non trump lead could be right. Btw the spot cards really are tiny. Your second highest trump is the five, so no complaints of how you can't plan for some ridiculous trump promo.
IMO x = 10, A = 9, Q = 8, x = 6, K = 5. Rixi Markus recommended that you lead an ace against pre-empts but I admire Phil King's Q lead.
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Posted 2015-April-22, 13:18

View PostPhilG007, on 2015-April-22, 03:15, said:

I would lead a trump. Leading from the other suits risks giving away a vitsl trick. If you happen to run through partner's trump honor,that's too bad but it's likely to be a dead duck anyway. There is an old bridge adage "When in doubt,lead trumps". Like most mottos in the game,there is more than a grain of truth in it.
John McLaren admonished his partners "You don't have a license to lead trumps", which he dubbed "the idiots' lead" :( That might be going to far but sometimes it's a lazy lead :)
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