[diana_eva]

Sry was a bit late to post this - tourney's on at 2PM EDT (8PM CET) as usual, come play

[gwnn]

jlall is also playing!! Don't miss this once in a lifetime opportunity!

[PhantomSac]

Rogerclee also in!

[PhantomSac]

roger and i combined are minus a lot of imps right now lol...in fact my only good board was vs roger!

[kuhchung]

omg gwnn sorry so much for the final round!!!!!!!!!!

[GreenMan]

I'm amused by board 19 -- 3NT played at all 6 tables, taking 12, 11, 10, 9, 8, and 7 tricks. Nice spread!

[GreenMan]

And thanks to all, it was lots of fun.

[diana_eva]

Thanks everyone for joining. I sort of hate the indy randomness, but OTOH every time I make it pairs few people register so I'm torn. I'll make it pairs next week for a change but I feel indies are more fun coz we get to meet more people.

Results here:
http://webutil.bridg...6493-1429466603

Barmar owned it, cherdano inherited some of my good work and came second, flavoneus (my husband) finished 3rd.

Jlall, rogerclee and kfay also played which was great IMHO, we don't get them every day.

[helene_t]

kuhchung, on 2015-April-19, 14:01, said:

omg gwnn sorry so much for the final round!!!!!!!!!!

I want to see that on video!

[PhantomSac]

diana_eva, on 2015-April-19, 14:18, said:

Thanks everyone for joining. I sort of hate the indy randomness, but OTOH every time I make it pairs few people register so I'm torn. I'll make it pairs next week for a change but I feel indies are more fun coz we get to meet more people.

Results here:
http://webutil.bridg...6493-1429466603

Barmar owned it, cherdano inherited some of my good work and came second, flavoneus (my husband) finished 3rd.

Jlall, rogerclee and kfay also played which was great IMHO, we don't get them every day.

Yeah I think indy is way better. It's like a forum get together, it's random but I don't think the point is a serious bridge competition as much as playing with people you talk with on the forum.

[cherdano]

If pairs, how about a "No established partnerships" rule?

[diana_eva]

cherdano, on 2015-April-19, 14:46, said:

If pairs, how about a "No established partnerships" rule?

Don't know if I'd enforce this. I'm thinking pairs to attract those who prefer established partnerships (eg. foobar-straube), if they don't care they'd play the indy anyway.

Good part of making it pairs is it's howell so everyone plays everyone - that's the upside IMO

Also, if anyone wants to play with bot send me a PM and I'll give you 25 cents to rent robot, if u don't have a BB$ account or don't feel like spending on this.

[gwnn]

Board 20 was totally my fault dude. 110% gwnn -10% kuhchung

[kuhchung]

helene_t, on 2015-April-19, 14:38, said:

I want to see that on video!

it's uploaded but i'm not linking it because omg 3N what was I doing

[42krunner]

Oh my. Why did I play F2F bridge today!

[gwnn]

from kuhchung:
round 1: https://www.youtube....h?v=q1GnZ-sBZCc
round 2: https://www.youtube....h?v=rZz5YaIMySg
round 6: https://www.youtube....h?v=UYbr7l3y9nE
round 10: https://www.youtube....h?v=7WOXaeIIWMg (DON'T WATCH THIS)
from gwnn:
rounds 1- 4 https://www.youtube....h?v=tzIs7FcoUTA
rounds 5- 7 https://www.youtube....h?v=DKMtTEmhjOY
rounds 8-10 https://www.youtube....h?v=9wp6RyxdXKs (DON'T WATCH ROUND 10)
results etc https://www.youtube....h?v=rNiDovteQaE

[gwnn]

Could we make it MP constantly instead of IMP/MP intermittently? It makes little sense to ximp with scores like 4♦-6 in a 4-0 fit (or indeed 6Cx-3 when 4S was cold ). I know that results don't matter much but cross IMP pairs just adds an unnecessary element of randomness. Please don't take this as a dissuasion of beginners to join, it's perfectly fine, just that sitting across a new person as opposed to sitting across jlall or rogerclee is not the same thing. And of course this evens out mostly but it evens out less in cross IMP's than in MP's (maybe I play with rogerclee and he finds an extra overtrick in 2♥ that no one finds and it will gain us the same as a triple squeeze in 6NT).

[gwnn]

gwnn, on 2015-April-19, 16:00, said:

Board 20 was totally my fault dude. 110% gwnn -10% kuhchung

It's just a typical case of "solving Schrodinger's equation by day, can't add 2+1 together at the bridge table." It's an all-too-common phenomenon but just awful to know it applies to myself. We're in 5♠, we have two tricks, we need one more, if you have the ace of spades or king of clubs you will get it, if you have the ♦A then we need to get it now. It's actually simpler than I make it out to be here but whatever. argh! 'lalalala I refuse to think my partner (may have) signalled for a club so I'm gonna play a club allalalalala let's not count any points or tricks let's not look at the contract or form of scoring lalalala club woo hoo.' There that feels better. I have plenty of excuses too like having commentated 19 boards before but to be honest I can totally see myself doing the same exact thing at the table. This summer I went down in 5♣ in teams because I actually played in a line that was supposed to make 6 (although there was a much better one for 6 but that's beside the point), i.e. I refused to count to 2 (losers) and stopped at 1. This is less than basic stuff that I need to figure out. Oh well. I guess what I'm saying is "sorry kuhchung for board 20!!!!"

edit: and clee made a killer lead in 19, nothing you can do about that.

[diana_eva]

gwnn, on 2015-April-19, 23:10, said:

Could we make it MP constantly instead of IMP/MP intermittently? It makes little sense to ximp with scores like 4♦-6 in a 4-0 fit (or indeed 6Cx-3 when 4S was cold ). I know that results don't matter much but cross IMP pairs just adds an unnecessary element of randomness. Please don't take this as a dissuasion of beginners to join, it's perfectly fine, just that sitting across a new person as opposed to sitting across jlall or rogerclee is not the same thing. And of course this evens out mostly but it evens out less in cross IMP's than in MP's (maybe I play with rogerclee and he finds an extra overtrick in 2♥ that no one finds and it will gain us the same as a triple squeeze in 6NT).

Sure, I don't have a strong preference either way. I thought IMPs was less random in small games TBH, but I was probably wrong

[PhantomSac]

gwnn, on 2015-April-20, 02:50, said:

edit: and clee made a killer lead in 19, nothing you can do about that.

A spade lead is not really killing, assuming they go spade spade spade you will backdoor into the make even with a club misguess since the HA is on your left and diamonds come in. RHO has no entry to the long spade. Conversely if you judge (or see) that LHO has the long spade, you might make if RHO has the long club and the HA and you misguess. Of course LHO can always shift to a heart but then you have not lost anything, you just need to pick up the clubs. Make them find that play first.

You don't really need to see all of this to duck the spade, it should just be a matter of technique. A lot of well played hands arise from just doing technical things to begin with without having a concrete reason other than that it won't cost. This is similar to the idea in chess that tactics arise from already good positions.

Against my partner they led a heart, in practice that was killing since now you have to guess clubs to make and there is no reason to do so.

The hand roughly for anyone who cares:

JT
xx
ATx
A98xxx

Axxx
Kx
KQ9x
KJx

1N-3N SK lead, RHO encouraging.