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Partner and I are considering expanding our use of NFBs (= 6-bad10) to cover all 2-level responses, except perhaps 1D-(2C)-? and 1C-(2D)-?. Playing them in more limited circumstances has proved a winner over the last several months. The problem seems to be: What to do with inv+ hands with 5+ card suits -- what to do, that is, that will lead to intelligent decisions. The negX then bid alternative gets us pretty high pretty fast, now, doesn't it? (I have read pretty much everything I can find on NFBs, but no joy.)
Any constructive comments/advice/sources?
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Help with NFB structures
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Posted 2015-April-16, 12:17
My personal conjecture is that NFBs work better with limited openings, but then again, that's been my area of primary experience. Over 1D - (2C), you can potentially use transfers (say 2♦ = ♥ and 2♥ = ♠ and 2♠ = LR+ in ♦), but it the cost is inability to bid 2♦ TP (and memory load). Over 1♣ - (2♦), my recommendation would be 2♥ / 2♠ as NFBs, with X catering to some GF hands balanced with 5M and 3♥ / 3♠ for hands that don't want to risk an initial X.
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Posted 2015-April-16, 14:44
I think a range that includes constructive and invitational (8-12?) works better than 6-10.
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Posted 2015-April-17, 04:10
I play NFB as 7-11 like straube.
When you play NFB and you don't want to double+ bid 5 card suit, you can also make a strong jump shift, although this should be 6 card suit, but you can do it with very good 5 card one.
When you play NFB and you don't want to double+ bid 5 card suit, you can also make a strong jump shift, although this should be 6 card suit, but you can do it with very good 5 card one.
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Posted 2015-April-17, 04:22
Xfers, upto 3 of openers suit, the only real loss is the natural 2NT,
but even this one could be included (ev. wrong siding).
We are also play NFB as constructive, what ever this means, the upper
bound are inv.- hands, with inv.+ hands you force to game.
but even this one could be included (ev. wrong siding).
We are also play NFB as constructive, what ever this means, the upper
bound are inv.- hands, with inv.+ hands you force to game.
With kind regards
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
Uwe Gebhardt (P_Marlowe)
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Posted 2015-April-17, 06:14
NFB were not designed as weak bids but for a constructive purpose. They show invitational hands. These are not sign-off bids, they are just not forcing.
So any hand, which can not force to game, can not be at the same time too strong for NFB.
The suit may be not good enough for a NFB or the distribution may be more suitable for a negative double, but invitational hands have the right strength for a NFB.
If you play the upper limit of your "free bids" lower, your bids are not conforming to standard NFB.
Rainer Herrmann
So any hand, which can not force to game, can not be at the same time too strong for NFB.
The suit may be not good enough for a NFB or the distribution may be more suitable for a negative double, but invitational hands have the right strength for a NFB.
If you play the upper limit of your "free bids" lower, your bids are not conforming to standard NFB.
Rainer Herrmann
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