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Posted 2015-April-11, 07:31



4nt is blackwood,but Gib doesn't answer,5 only says " 6+,3-,11TPs".
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Posted 2015-April-11, 08:31

I think the mistake (in description) is 4N not 5. 4N usually isn't Blackwood in that sequence. But who knows how Gib takes it.

4N says I'm not interested in slam. Other bids are control bids in support of .

For some people 4 says doesn't like how about but I think that is unusual.



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Posted 2015-April-11, 10:41

View Poststeve2005, on 2015-April-11, 08:31, said:

I think the mistake (in description) is 4N not 5. 4N usually isn't Blackwood in that sequence. But who knows how Gib takes it.

4N says I'm not interested in slam. Other bids are control bids in support of .

For some people 4 says doesn't like how about but I think that is unusual.


I know what you said,and I agree,however 4N is defined as Blackwood in Gib CC.
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Posted 2015-April-11, 13:33

View Poststeve2005, on 2015-April-11, 08:31, said:

4N says I'm not interested in slam. Other bids are control bids in support of .

What would 5 by West mean over East's 4?
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Posted 2015-April-16, 16:40

It looks just as bad explanation fetched by web server. There is no bug.

Here 4NT is not blackwood.

It's denial and suggestion to play 4NT.

Over such sequence GIB plays:

2NT - 3
3* - 4 minor
4X suits show -> cue and fit in minor and MAX.
4NT is to play

So GIB has option to show preference in this minor as well.

Over 4X, 4NT from responder is now blackwood over this minor.

GIB would have bid 4 as West over 4. That denies all Aces below, So East would know their max is 6, missing Ace of diamonds.

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Posted 2015-April-16, 17:23

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-April-16, 16:40, said:

It looks just as bad explanation fetched by web server. There is no bug.

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Posted 2015-April-17, 08:48

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-April-16, 16:40, said:

It looks just as bad explanation fetched by web server. There is no bug.

Here 4NT is not blackwood.

It's denial and suggestion to play 4NT.



Georgi,I really don't understand what you said " It looks just as bad explanation fetched by web server. There is no bug."
I know there are two Gib servers at BBO - one for bidding,another for playing.
However you said "fetched by web server ",it is me or bbo or other? If it is bbo web servers,it should be a bug for sure.
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Posted 2015-April-20, 15:56

View Postlycier, on 2015-April-17, 08:48, said:

Georgi,I really don't understand what you said " It looks just as bad explanation fetched by web server. There is no bug."
I know there are two Gib servers at BBO - one for bidding,another for playing.
However you said "fetched by web server ",it is me or bbo or other? If it is bbo web servers,it should be a bug for sure.


If explanation is wrong, then will be either bug or bad explanation in general.

When underneath call and explanation is ok for other(s), then current user had a problem with fetching the appropriate explanation by web server. Network ISP, browser, etc reasons.

If that user has problem with GIB server, robot might just stuck and not play, but it won't provide different or wrong explanation.

So somehow what you received was wrong.

Correct and real explanations ( for all calls ) what were supposed you to receive are:

2NT ( Two NT opener. Could have 5M. -- 2-5 !C; 2-5 !D; 2-5 !H; 2-5 !S; 20-21 HCP ) - 3 ( Stayman -- 5+ total points )
3 ( -- 2-5 !C; 2-5 !D; 2-3 !H; 4-5 !S; 20-21 HCP ) - 4 ( -- 5+ !C; 3- !S; 11-20 total points )
4NT ( -- 2 !C; 2-5 !D; 2-3 !H; 4-5 !S; 20-21 HCP ) - 5 ( -- 6+ !C; 3- !S; 11 total points )

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Posted 2015-April-20, 16:58

View Postgeorgi, on 2015-April-20, 15:56, said:

So somehow what you received was wrong.
Correct and real explanations ( for all calls ) what were supposed you to receive are:

2NT ( Two NT opener. Could have 5M. -- 2-5 !C; 2-5 !D; 2-5 !H; 2-5 !S; 20-21 HCP ) - 3 ( Stayman -- 5+ total points )
3 ( -- 2-5 !C; 2-5 !D; 2-3 !H; 4-5 !S; 20-21 HCP ) - 4 ( -- 5+ !C; 3- !S; 11-20 total points )
4NT ( -- 2 !C; 2-5 !D; 2-3 !H; 4-5 !S; 20-21 HCP ) - 5 ( -- 6+ !C; 3- !S; 11 total points )


Sadness !!!
Foe example :
I had ever seen the explanations on 3 is same with you: 3 ( Stayman -- 5+ total points ),but may be " ... stayman" or "--- stayman".
How different can I be !!!
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