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#1 User is offline   patroclo 

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Posted 2015-April-10, 04:46

It would be agreeable to make clear who denies the claim and when an host remove a player to inform the partner of him that he hasn't left the table voluntarily-
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Posted 2015-April-10, 05:46

View Postpatroclo, on 2015-April-10, 04:46, said:

make clear who denies the claim

The guy who has the missing queen of course, so yeah, have the software tell declarer which way to finesse.
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Posted 2015-April-10, 06:15

View Postmgoetze, on 2015-April-10, 05:46, said:

The guy who has the missing queen of course, so yeah, have the software tell declarer which way to finesse.

Yes. In real life it doesn't matter since play stops when a claim is rejected and the director sorts it out. But on BBO, it is normal that play continues after a claim is rejected. And therefore it is important that declarer doesn't know who rejected the claim.
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Posted 2015-April-10, 08:36

I can see my partner's Queen when a claim is made, and am capable of rejecting a claim on his behalf.
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Posted 2015-April-10, 11:51

View Postpatroclo, on 2015-April-10, 04:46, said:

It would be agreeable to make clear who denies the claim and when an host remove a player to inform the partner of him that he hasn't left the table voluntarily-


Well then one may know it at the end of a hand, because sometimes one denies an hand simple to make and the opp criticize wrongly the player that had accepted
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Posted 2015-April-10, 12:49

View Postmgoetze, on 2015-April-10, 05:46, said:

The guy who has the missing queen of course, so yeah, have the software tell declarer which way to finesse.

Partly true but not entirely. When a claim is made, all four hands are revealed, so a defender can reject based on their partner's hand.

Now I see that 1eyedjack already mentioned this.
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Posted 2015-April-10, 15:05

View Post1eyedjack, on 2015-April-10, 08:36, said:

I can see my partner's Queen when a claim is made, and am capable of rejecting a claim on his behalf.

Yeah but your partner is likely to be capable of rejecting it even faster than you are.
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Posted 2015-April-11, 02:09

View Postmgoetze, on 2015-April-10, 15:05, said:

Yeah but your partner is likely to be capable of rejecting it even faster than you are.


Not my partners
Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
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