[KurtGodel]

Here's a hand I played vs GIB today. Thought it was quite nice to get a hand that seemed so composed.

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West leads the ace of clubs and continues with a small club which East ruffs. Now GIB decides to give you the contract and returns a spade. Your play.

EDIT: I misremembered the hand slightly and had one of dummy's clubs and spades mixed up, the hand was a little easy in the form I first presented it. The first two tricks went slightly differently (West still has 8 clubs rather than 9).

[ahydra]

Am I missing something here (e.g. matchpoint scoring)? Take the SA, draw trumps, establish a diamond trick and ruff the SJ in dummy - seems like nothing can go wrong.

ahydra

[WesleyC]

♠A, claim 10 tricks...

Seems impossible to make more or less then 10 tricks here, is the hand wrong?

[johnu]

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Presumably the point of the problem was that East could play ♦A and continue diamonds for a ruff, assuming a 7 card suit for the 3♦ bid. This is probably expected behaviour for basic GIBs which play pretty badly. Advanced GIBs should have a better chance of finding the winning play but I wouldn't bet any money on it. What type of GIB were you playing against?

[broze]

It looks like someone was trying to be much too clever! Or perhaps on the actual hand N had 3334 - then you might play:

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win SA, HA, H to K (East follows twice), Diamond to the King forking East, then A, K, J♠ hopefully endplaying West, on the argument that E would not open 3D vul with Qxxx♠.

[Cyberyeti]

 broze, on 2015-March-30, 14:45, said:

It looks like someone was trying to be much too clever! Or perhaps on the actual hand N had 3334 - then you might play:

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win SA, HA, H to K (East follows twice), Diamond to the King forking East, then A, K, J♠ hopefully endplaying West, on the argument that E would not open 3D vul with Qxxx♠.

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yup as shown, E can't have less than 2 spades so A♠ and ruff one high, draw trumps and give up a diamond, needs to be 3334 to have a problem

[rmnka447]

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Which hand is the master hand? Declarer's hand!

Play ♠ A, draw remaining 2 trump, ♠ to ♠K and ruff ♠ J.

Opponents didn't go for a ♦ ruff, so maybe all outstanding trump and ♦ A were in preemptor's hand.

[KurtGodel]

There had indeed been an error with the hand I posted. Broze's line is basically correct (but contains a small error), but in fairness he didn't have the problem as it should be.

[ahydra]

 KurtGodel, on 2015-March-31, 04:23, said:

Broze's line is basically correct (but contains a small error), but in fairness he didn't have the problem as it should be.

Right, he needs to

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ruff a club before playing the SJ, so as to fully eliminate the suit

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[KurtGodel]

 ahydra, on 2015-March-31, 04:27, said:

Right, he needs to

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ruff a club before playing the SJ, so as to fully eliminate the suit

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Well in his hand he has an endplay menace in clubs so it sort of makes sense. You can actually make the contract whoever has the QS.

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Rise AS. JH to the KH (they follow, but if not you could draw another round), diamond towards your hand (East ducks), now TH to QH and you play the QC ditching a diamond. West must give you a spade into your tenace, or a ruff and sluff. You need also need to make sure that you play your trumps in such a way that you have enough entries to dummy.

[broze]

That doesn't work Kurt. Even if trumps break. You only have three entries to dummy so when you use up your last one For the endplay LHO can safely exit a club.

[Fluffy]

 broze, on 2015-April-03, 04:25, said:

That doesn't work Kurt. Even if trumps break. You only have three entries to dummy so when you use up your last one For the endplay LHO can safely exit a club.

You still seem to think that dummy has 4 clubs. Dummy has changed to 3433.

[broze]

 Fluffy, on 2015-April-03, 15:01, said:

You still seem to think that dummy has 4 clubs. Dummy has changed to 3433.

 broze, on 2015-March-30, 14:45, said:

It looks like someone was trying to be much too clever! Or perhaps on the actual hand N had 3334 - then you might play:

Looks like we are talking about different layouts.