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3♦ says " support for ♥,splinter in ♦ --- 0-1 ♦,4+♥,rebiddable ♠,17+TPs ".
It looks like 4th suit.
I don't understand Gib CC here.
This post has been edited by lycier: 2015-March-12, 20:28
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Gib' 4th suit shows 4+cards support for opening major suit?
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Posted 2015-March-12, 07:08
3♦ says " support for ♥,splinter in ♦ --- 0-1 ♦,4+♥,rebiddable ♠,17+TPs ".
It looks like 4th suit.
I don't understand Gib CC here.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 07:24
Strangely,today I can't post my hand diagram.
It seems there are some wrong with BBF?
It seems there are some wrong with BBF?
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Posted 2015-March-12, 07:45
Nothing unusual here. When you make a soloway jump shift, you have one of 3 hand types:
1. A solid suit of your own
2. A fit jump with 4 card support
3. A huge balanced hand with a 5 card suit (optional)
If you had the first type, you would rebid the suit. If you had the third type, you would be rebidding 3NT. Therefore the only hand type it could be is the second, and a new suit is played as a splinter.
1. A solid suit of your own
2. A fit jump with 4 card support
3. A huge balanced hand with a 5 card suit (optional)
If you had the first type, you would rebid the suit. If you had the third type, you would be rebidding 3NT. Therefore the only hand type it could be is the second, and a new suit is played as a splinter.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 11:40
manudude03, on 2015-March-12, 07:45, said:
Therefore the only hand type it could be is the second, and a new suit is played as a splinter.
This treatment is mentioned in the documentation listed on BBO.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 14:48
lycier, on 2015-March-12, 07:08, said:
I reposted/resized the hand to make it easier to see. The key is that over a jump shift, 4th suit doesn't apply per se. GIB plays Soloway (strong) Jump Shifts, and manudude03 hit the nail on the head. The 3♣ response shows Club strength (2/ top 3 I believe), not necessarily length.
What I'd really like, though GIB probably doesn't play it, is 5♦ over 3♣ as Voidwood, and that propels you to the Grand.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 16:36
GIB doesn't need voidwood for this hand the last bid should have been 6♥- (enough information already) which partner raises to 7 ♥ given that he hasn't cued his A♣ yet.
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Posted 2015-March-12, 16:56
Just plain old cuebidding should get to 7 also, ....4D-5C-7H
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Posted 2015-March-13, 13:26
It's ironic, given all the times GIB makes wildly to ridiculously aggressive slam moves, that it does not move to slam on this hand where any novice would bid one. And with partner having cue bid the SA!!!
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Posted 2015-March-13, 19:41
iandayre, on 2015-March-13, 13:26, said:
It's ironic, given all the times GIB makes wildly to ridiculously aggressive slam moves, that it does not move to slam on this hand where any novice would bid one. And with partner having cue bid the SA!!!
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