[diana_eva]

MPs. 1st seat, white vs red. Just vote in the poll pls, curious abt how close it is based simply on each person's taste. Indy, not playing with a regular partner.

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[eagles123]

yes I would open and I really don't see this as being very close at all.

[hrothgar]

 diana_eva, on 2015-January-18, 16:01, said:

MPs. 1st seat, white vs red. Just vote in the poll pls, curious abt how close it is based simply on each person's taste. Indy, not playing with a regular partner.

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Its a 12 count with two bullets. I think its a reasonable opener

[Bbradley62]

 diana_eva, on 2015-January-18, 16:01, said:

Just vote in the poll pls...

You didn't really expect people to vote without commenting, did you? I wonder if you could have locked the thread without locking the poll

[diana_eva]

 Bbradley62, on 2015-January-18, 16:13, said:

You didn't really expect people to vote without commenting, did you? I wonder if you could have locked the thread without locking the poll

Ah I didn't mean to shut out comments. Ofc I'm interested in comments too, but mainly I wanted to encourage anyone to vote even without leaving a comment.

[manudude03]

Ask me in 40 years and I might consider passing. Until then, I open.

[PhantomSac]

It's not at all close. Just open all 12 counts you won't be very far off. If you are thinking of passing with 12 including 2.5 quick tricks and 2 tens you are way off. You are even white at MP.

[whereagles]

what is "other"?... an inadmissible dbl or rdbl?

[mikeh]

The more interesting questions, which are more systemic than judgement, are what to open and what to rebid, assuming partner bids 1red.

For me, system, when not opening 1N, which I would in all my regular partnerships, requires 1C and then 1N.

Passing with no rebid problem and 12 hcp, including 2 Aces, makes little sense to me. Heck, we even own the spade suit, tho I won't be showing it unless partner does.

[diana_eva]

 whereagles, on 2015-January-18, 18:01, said:

what is "other"?... an inadmissible dbl or rdbl?

Other is for fun loving people

[manudude03]

 whereagles, on 2015-January-18, 18:01, said:

what is "other"?... an inadmissible dbl or rdbl?

I can only guess that "other" is "depends on what day of the week it is".

[diana_eva]

OK this was a poll for my own fun, sorry. I also thought it was a WTP opener, which I did at the table. The hand was played today in BBF Indy where 3 out of 5 tables opened, 2 passed, and out of those 3 who opened I was the only one in 2♠+1 for a cold zero. Here's what happened at the other tables:


1 1NxN-3 800 100.00%
2 1NN-3 300 75.00%
3 1NN-2 200 50.00%
4 2♠W+2 170 25.00%
5 2♠W+1 140 0.00% <------ diana_eva's score

Full hand was:

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[Bbradley62]

Your action put you in a good position, but your LHO's odd action turned it around. At all of the other tables, North bid 1N to either open or overcall 1♣. When it was an overcall, East was able to double. At your table, North doubled your 1♣, and your side ended up buying the contract instead of hurting North.

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[diana_eva]

 Bbradley62, on 2015-January-18, 18:51, said:

Your action put you in a good position, but your LHO's odd action turned it around. At all of the other tables, North bid 1N to either open or overcall 1♣. When it was an overcall, East was able to double. At your table, North doubled your 1♣, and your side ended up buying the contract instead of hurting North.

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True, we got fixed by opp refusing to make the 1NT overcall. but what amused me was 2 out of 5 passing. I really thought it was a 100% opener, which is why I polled.

[nige1]

 diana_eva, on 2015-January-18, 18:26, said:

OK this was a poll for my own fun, sorry. I also thought it was a WTP opener, which I did at the table. The hand was played today in BBF Indy where 3 out of 5 tables opened, 2 passed, and out of those 3 who opened I was the only one in 2♠+1 for a cold zero. Here's what happened at the other tables:

1 1NxN-3 800 100.00%
2 1NN-3 300 75.00%
3 1NN-2 200 50.00%
4 2♠W+2 170 25.00%
5 2♠W+1 140 0.00% <------ diana_eva's score

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IMO your should open. My partner opened and our auction was
1♣ (1N) Double (Pass)
2♠ Passed out.
Partner played well to make 10 tricks.

[mikestar13]

I even open this playing a style where I pass (average or worse) flat 12's-- it's a better hand than a fair number of 13's I've opened. Even an indisputably right action (more certainly right than this hand) will go wrong once in a while, where an obviously wrong action works out.
I once bid a game with a 9 card heart fit with 27 HCP in the combined hands--and went down one when opening leader lead his stiff to partner's Ace, leading to a defensive crossruff. I take it no one believes that hand should have stopped in a partial.

[mike777]

If every I get to play with
Rosenberg I pass/with the mighty Roth I pass

fwiw I hope to someday play Al roth style with Justin/ I would be lucky


With Justin open

[chasetb]

Diana, I open the West hand if playing a Strong Club (or online with randoms), but I pass otherwise. I love the two bullets and the ♦ holding, but I hate the fact that we are 4333 shape and that Jxx is essentially worthless.

[PhantomSac]

How is jxx essentially worthless? A jack is worth more than a small card

[akwoo]

I'm the pass vote, but I don't mind opening, and would open 1N if that was systemic.

I think 4333 hands are terrible, and I also don't want to have bid only my worst suit if opps buy the contract.

Partner will act if we shouldn't be on defense. 1♣ doesn't have preemptive value as an opening bid.