BBO Discussion Forums: Full Disclosure CoCa in competition - BBO Discussion Forums

Jump to content

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

Full Disclosure CoCa in competition

#1 User is offline   OBSugar 

  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 17
  • Joined: 2011-March-06

Posted 2015-January-04, 10:32

If you use a full disclosure convention card, it is possible to view the system meaning of any bid you are about to make. (correct me if I am wrong, but I assume it is the same as when you play the GIB).

Doesn't that create an unfair advantage for a partnership using a FDCC? As opposed to a partnership that must actually know the system meaning of a bid they are about to make, or suffer the consequences?
0

#2 User is offline   ArtK78 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 7,786
  • Joined: 2004-September-05
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Galloway NJ USA
  • Interests:Bridge, Poker, participatory and spectator sports.
    Occupation - Tax Attorney in Atlantic City, NJ.

Posted 2015-January-04, 10:35

I think the unfair advantage of the full disclosure convention card is how annoying all of the explanations are that pop up automatically.
0

#3 User is offline   mgoetze 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 4,942
  • Joined: 2005-January-28
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Cologne, Germany
  • Interests:Sleeping, Eating

Posted 2015-January-04, 10:50

You're playing on the internet. BBO is not going to be able to stop you from looking up everything in your system notes, whether those are in the form of a FDCC or a 200 page indexed PDF.
"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"
    -- Bertrand Russell
0

#4 User is offline   barmar 

  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Admin
  • Posts: 21,415
  • Joined: 2004-August-21
  • Gender:Male

Posted 2015-January-05, 10:42

View PostOBSugar, on 2015-January-04, 10:32, said:

If you use a full disclosure convention card, it is possible to view the system meaning of any bid you are about to make. (correct me if I am wrong, but I assume it is the same as when you play the GIB).

Doesn't that create an unfair advantage for a partnership using a FDCC? As opposed to a partnership that must actually know the system meaning of a bid they are about to make, or suffer the consequences?

The justification (or rationalization, if you prefer) for this is that partnerships don't generally create their own FDCC. When you pick from a list of pre-written CCs, it's hard to know everything that's in it -- reading an FDCC requires going down every path in the bidding tree.

I believe tournament hosts also have an option to disable display of FDCC explanations to the partner of the bidder.

#5 User is offline   jillybean 

  • hooked
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • Group: Advanced Members
  • Posts: 9,654
  • Joined: 2003-November-15
  • Gender:Female
  • Location:Vancouver, Canada
  • Interests:Multi

Posted 2015-January-05, 10:45

View PostOBSugar, on 2015-January-04, 10:32, said:

Doesn't that create an unfair advantage for a partnership using a FDCC? As opposed to a partnership that must actually know the system meaning of a bid they are about to make, or suffer the consequences?

Yes, it does create an unfair advantage.
"And no matter what methods you play, it is essential, for anyone aspiring to learn to be a good player, to learn the importance of bidding shape properly." MikeH
(still learning)
0

#6 User is offline   OBSugar 

  • PipPip
  • Group: Members
  • Posts: 17
  • Joined: 2011-March-06

Posted 2015-January-05, 14:51

Also, kind of twisted, reliance on the FD card is suspect. In recent match, opponents played a variable weak NT, 10-13 NV, 13-15 Vul or in 4th seat. The FDCC did not accommodate the change, so opps needed to edit as they bid. Needless to say, that did not occur consistently. Fortunately, beaten like a drum in that match, so no hard feelings.
0

Page 1 of 1
  • You cannot start a new topic
  • You cannot reply to this topic

1 User(s) are reading this topic
0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users