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PUNISH THEM!!!!! or maybe not, ATB

#1 User is offline   ibraves 

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Posted 2014-October-10, 18:52

I think this one is genuinely tough.



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Posted 2014-October-10, 18:58

too good for 2nt but note that both 6h and 6c are down so.....I expect some to miss out on 6nt.

I suppose south could just blast to 6nt
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Posted 2014-October-10, 19:16

West. Does he play for money?
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Posted 2014-October-10, 22:52

I put some blame on North. That hand is worth 24 points, even at NT (Goren would have upgraded that to 23 for sure).

I can't really blame South too much, West was a nutjob and they lucked out in finding a good landing spot.
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Posted 2014-October-11, 01:55

Presumably 3 over the X would show 3, with KJ I might be inclined to do that, but I'd also echo that this is not a 2N opener, it's too good.
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Posted 2014-October-11, 02:08

View Postchasetb, on 2014-October-10, 22:52, said:

I put some blame on North. That hand is worth 24 points, even at NT (Goren would have upgraded that to 23 for sure).

I can't really blame South too much, West was a nutjob and they lucked out in finding a good landing spot.

I think the problem is less that the hand is too strong for 2NT, but that 2NT is a misbid.
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Posted 2014-October-11, 02:42

View Postrhm, on 2014-October-11, 02:08, said:

I think the problem is less that the hand is too strong for 2NT, but that 2NT is a misbid.
Mis-describing strong hands leads to bad results

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The problem is to look for a bidding to 6NT : opening 2 (and applying Reese convention yet ) is easy to get 6 or .
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Posted 2014-October-12, 02:47

I wouldn't have opened 2NT (too strong, too offshape), but that's probably not the only reason for missing out on 6NT.

I think I would blame it on "stuff happens".
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Posted 2014-October-12, 04:02

It may be (?): W N E S
- 2 p 2
X* 4** p 4*** *=i'm "not" crazy **Reese asking for Ace *** 3 cards in clubs 1 Ace
p 4* p 5** *= asking for King in spade **= King of spade
p 5* p 6** *= " " Queen " **= Queen of spade
6NT p p p (with the willing to go in NT..)(Lovera)
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