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#1 User is offline   ArtK78 

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Posted 2014-September-24, 18:00

I have not seen a truly inexplicable bid by GIB in some time. The wait is over.



Can someone please explain North's (GIB's) 3 call?
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Posted 2014-September-25, 03:09

GIB doesn't play Lebensohl in this situation so it is unclear if it is invitational or to play. It doesn't deny a 5th heart (I hope) since S could have redoubled with 3-card support. I suppose two diamonds is conceivable but at red it should be 3.

OK, given the heading I'll have to think in Ken Rexford terms. Inverted fishbein? Transfer to clubs? 8+ diamonds? Some 16+ hand that started with a pass because it had a rebid issue?

If you are asking for a definition that is both bizare and sensible I would say transfer to hearts, or 62 giving opener a choice.

If you are asking for a definition that is stupid yet unsurprising i would say 5-13 total points, 1+ diamonds.

Edit: oh didn't notice that we actually got to see the hand. So 1+ diamonds it is, apparently.

This post has been edited by helene_t: 2014-September-25, 13:03

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Posted 2014-September-25, 06:27

GIB's explanation for the 3 bid:

2+ , 4+ , 11- HCP, 9-12 total points.

Maybe GIB had a heart mixed in with its diamond(s),

This was the last hand in an ACBL BBO matchpoint game and it cost me the win as 3 went for 200. But GIB is nothing if not consistent, and it must have done similar things to many other players, as -200 scored 44.4%. 3 was not a common contract, but 3 and even 4(!) was not unusual, going for 200, 300 and even 400. South held Qxx Qx KQJTx Qxx.
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Posted 2014-September-25, 06:34

View PostArtK78, on 2014-September-24, 18:00, said:

I have not seen a truly inexplicable bid by GIB in some time. The wait is over.



Can someone please explain North's (GIB's) 3 call?


GIB plays support dbl. As South didn't use it but bid 2 instead, from North's perspective:
1. South has 0-2 cards
2. South has 6+ cards
3. (Inferred from E's X & W's 2) South has 1-2 cards.
I presume 3 by North would show a max pass 10+ HCP hand. With only 8 HCP, North "correctly chose" 3.

I'm not saying I agree with North's bidding, but offer it as a likely reason for the bid.
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Posted 2014-September-25, 11:57

GIB is out there somewhere asking why South rebid 2D with a 1NT rebid.
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Posted 2014-September-25, 12:42

View Postaguahombre, on 2014-September-25, 11:57, said:

GIB is out there somewhere asking why South rebid 2D with a 1NT rebid.


I think GIB plays 1NT there - after the double - as 18-19 - a treatment I have never heard of before, but there it is. That said, I would pass even if it showed a maximum of 14.
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Posted 2014-September-25, 13:02

2 shows six of course but this suit may be good enough to sell as a six card suit.
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Posted 2014-September-25, 13:37

Gib has made bizarre bids before this isn't even top 10
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Posted 2014-September-26, 22:06

It's frequently helpful to post the hand including GIB's explanations, to help see what's going on...
So...
  • GIB thinks 2 shows "twice rebiddable" diamonds, which means 7 of them or 6 good ones.
  • GIB apparently prioritizes showing such a suit over making a support rdbl, so South hasn't denied 3 hearts.
  • Thinking his side has enough to compete for a partscore but not enough for game, North competes to 3 so he doesn't get too high if South lacks heart support.
  • The description of 3 could be slightly adjusted, but I agree with Steve.

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Posted 2014-September-26, 22:06

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