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#1 User is offline   Jinksy 

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Posted 2014-September-18, 15:21

Game all

RHO deals and opens 4.

You have

KQJ63
97
A92
AQ7

What's your call a) at MPs b) at IMPs?

If you X, do you intend to bid 4 over P's 4?
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Posted 2014-September-18, 18:06

I am not doubling of course as the hand is not good enough to x and bid 4S over 4H. I will risk a 4S bid, and it IS a risk.
I do not understand the title of the post.
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Posted 2014-September-18, 18:45

4 spades.

i am not doubling but that's not because i don't have the strength for it. i don't have the clubs or hearts for it. yes, i am playable in clubs, but not as playable as doubling and correcting would imply. if partner is 2-4 in the black i want to play 4s for sure.

doubling and pulling isn't a function of strength when you have no space - it's just a function of shape.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 03:19

I would double and pull 4 to 4 if the spades were AKxxx to show the flexi hand. But here I go for the one-basket approach.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 04:34

Last time I saw someone bid over 4 with a hand like this (better, in fact), the result was -1700.

But still, I don't think I could bring myself to pass. Playing a "dbl + pull = flex" approach, that would be my bid. Otherwise just the cookie-cutter 4.

@Ron: "strong 4s" probably means if 4 where a strong bid, pass would be easy :)
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Posted 2014-September-19, 05:43

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-September-19, 04:34, said:

Last time I saw someone bid over 4 with a hand like this (better, in fact), the result was -1700.

But still, I don't think I could bring myself to pass. Playing a "dbl + pull = flex" approach, that would be my bid. Otherwise just the cookie-cutter 4.

@Ron: "strong 4s" probably means if 4 where a strong bid, pass would be easy :)


Who plays a strong 4D Nuno? Doesn't make sense to me, but not much that Jinksy says actually ever does. I too am worried about telegraph numbers.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 06:41

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-September-19, 04:34, said:

@Ron: "strong 4s" probably means if 4 where a strong bid, pass would be easy :)


It was facetious. In the UK at least, a lot of older partnerships still play strong 2s, which means a lot fewer awkward decisions. I can just about imagine finding someone who plays all 'preempts' strong over here.
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Posted 2014-September-19, 17:28

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