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Gib may forget its GCC?

#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2014-August-23, 03:22



According to Gib CC,I don't think it is right to open strong 2♣ with 26hcp in the balanced hand,it should open 3NT directly with 26hcp.ok?
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Posted 2014-August-23, 03:44

I don't think Gib treats 5422 hands as balanced. I think it should, and this is a greater failing than whether to open 2C or (ugh) 3N
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Posted 2014-August-23, 12:14

Anther question, why doesn't Gib make cuebid in support of ♥? It has mobster hand for ♥. Gib seems to cuebid and sign-off when it should cuebid or KC.
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Posted 2014-August-23, 12:39

View Poststeve2005, on 2014-August-23, 12:14, said:

Anther question, why doesn't Gib make cuebid in support of ♥? It has mobster hand for ♥. Gib seems to cuebid and sign-off when it should cuebid or KC.
Exactly what bid are you suggesting by which GIB?
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Posted 2014-August-26, 06:23

3NT opening could have only 5m332 or 4m/M(432/333) shape. GIB won't open having 5422 of any kind, including 5M or 2M2M 45 in minors.

Also about cuebidding, new suit by opener would be natural. 3♠/4♦ would be just 5♣+4♠(or other suit) and not confirmation for fit in hearts.

In theory is still possible opener having 5m4M and responder has 4M4M.

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Posted 2014-August-26, 09:49

(a)So, do we think that both East and West bid properly to end up in this 4♥ contract?
(b)Out of curiosity, in response to a 3N opening, what does 4♣ mean?
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Posted 2014-August-26, 11:11

I think it's gross for 3♥ to only show 4+ H. IMO 3♥ should be 5+H any strength (I think it's too awkward to have to bid 3♦ with 4- total pts), and 3♦ should just deny 5 cd major and leave room for opener to bid 4 cd major if have one.

Also in general I think GIB needs to be more flexible about opening in NT and rebidding in NT, it should be allowed on 5m(422) patterns, and 6m(322) patterns. 3♣ should have 6+ clubs or singleton somewhere IMO, especially since it bids horribly after 3♣ rebids, continuations are much better defined after NT rebids.
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Posted 2014-August-27, 15:10

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-August-26, 09:49, said:

(b)Out of curiosity, in response to a 3N opening, what does 4♣ mean?


After 3NT opening GIB plays:

4♣ - Gerber
4♦/4♥ - Major transfer.
4♠ not defined
4NT - Quantitative 6-7HCP.
5♣/5♦ - 6+ cards naturally, 4-6TP.
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