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#1 User is offline   chasetb 

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Posted 2014-August-19, 12:32

On hand 1, I was bidding this way planning to stop in 4, but decided later that partner had 5-6 Hearts. Anyways, my 2 showed 16+ points and 4- , but biddable ones?



Hand 2 (Entered an Indy midway, so created it). GIB is North. On a side note, how to I modify it to enter names?

I don't think it's standard, but over 2NT I pitch to you all that 3 should be Baron and 3NT to be 5+ , and both to be forcing to 4NT.


Over 1 - 3/3/3 or 1 - 3/3, 3NT should promise at least one stopper, and be more limited in points. I would say limited to 16- HCP and 18- points, but I am open to suggestions here.
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Posted 2014-August-19, 12:50

View Postchasetb, on 2014-August-19, 12:32, said:

Anyways, my 2 showed 16+ points and 4- , but biddable ones?
GIB's definition of "biddable" is: "5+ cards, or 4 cards + 3 of 5 honors or more than 4 8421 points", so the explanation of your 2 bid is simply saying that you wouldn't bother to show 4 crappy ones. That's bad? Edit... Oh, upon looking at it again, you are saying that 2 should be a double and correct, showing real spades... I agree with that.

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Hand 2 (Entered an Indy midway, so created it). GIB is North. On a side note, how to I modify it to enter names?
Each early command (names, hand definitions, etc) starts with "&". "&en=xyz" means "East's name is xyz". So, I've added "&nn=Robot" to the diagram.

This post has been edited by Bbradley62: 2014-August-19, 13:01

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Posted 2014-August-19, 12:53

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-August-19, 12:50, said:

GIB's definition of "biddable" is: "5+ cards, or 4 cards + 3 of 5 honors or more than 4 8421 points", so the explanation of your 2 bid is simply saying that you wouldn't bother to show 4 crappy ones. That's bad?




It is accurate, but incomplete. You also would not do it on 5 crappy ones. Or 6 crappy ones. Or 4 good ones,
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Posted 2014-August-19, 13:05

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-August-19, 12:50, said:

GIB's definition of "biddable" is: "5+ cards, or 4 cards + 3 of 5 honors or more than 4 8421 points", so the explanation of your 2 bid is simply saying that you wouldn't bother to show 4 crappy ones. That's bad?

I'm not arguing with the definition of 'biddable', but when the first description is 4- , as in 4 or less Spades, and then it says 'biddable spades' then there's a conflict, unless GIB can only have a very strong 4-card suit.

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-August-19, 12:50, said:

Each early command (names, hand definitions, etc) starts with "&". "&en=xyz" means "East's name is xyz". So, I've added "&nn=Robot" to the diagram.


Got it, and as you can see I did it. Thanks for the help there!
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Posted 2014-August-19, 13:31

View Postchasetb, on 2014-August-19, 13:05, said:

I'm not arguing with the definition of 'biddable', but when the first description is 4- , as in 4 or less Spades, and then it says 'biddable spades' then there's a conflict, unless GIB can only have a very strong 4-card suit.


I don't think that it is just that conflict at issue. A 4 card spade suit comprising AKQJ is, in my view, unsuitable for introducing as a new suit having made a takeout double of another suit on the previous round.
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Masterminding (pron. mPosted ImagesPosted ImagetPosted Imager-mPosted ImagendPosted Imageing) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.

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