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Vulnerable sacrifice or just defend?

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Posted 2014-August-06, 15:53

All red, mp's:

♠xx
♥AKxxx
♦Q872
♣Jx

(2♣)-2♦-(2♥)-3♦
(4♠)-Pa-Pa-???

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

Besides playing for fun, most people also like to play bridge to win


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Posted 2014-August-06, 15:55

I forgot to explain 2 Clubs shows 18-20 with a one-suited hand.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the ♥3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2014-August-06, 16:22

Just bid 5♦ immediately.

Invariably, the ox on the left just trots out their suit at the five level, which is exactly what you want.
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Posted 2014-August-06, 19:09

whats 2♥ by opp?
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Posted 2014-August-06, 21:07

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-August-06, 16:22, said:

Just bid 5♦ immediately.

Invariably, the ox on the left just trots out their suit at the five level, which is exactly what you want.

So, he would be an oxy moron?

BTW, I would bid 5D over 2H also...but not positive it is a sacrifice. Certainly am not fond of 3D, then 5D, with any holding.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 01:10

This can easily go for 800. I'll just pass.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 03:09

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-August-06, 16:22, said:

Just bid 5♦ immediately.

Invariably, the ox on the left just trots out their suit at the five level, which is exactly what you want.

Only true in a weak game.
But I agree, if you are tempted to bid 5♦ now, you should have done it on the previous round.

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Posted 2014-August-07, 03:27

View Postrhm, on 2014-August-07, 03:09, said:

Only true in a weak game.
But I agree, if you are tempted to bid 5♦ now, you should have done it on the previous round.

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People who play that system are usually weak. B-)
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Posted 2014-August-07, 08:48

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-August-07, 01:10, said:

This can easily go for 800. I'll just pass.

I (perhaps falsely) assumed partner's 2D bid to look different than your partner's 2D bid in this situation.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 09:03

Certainly the opps are in a GF sequence after 2♥ on this auction. I am a very strong believer in either bidding 5♦ over 2♥ or never bidding it.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 09:09

View Postaguahombre, on 2014-August-07, 08:48, said:

I (perhaps falsely) assumed partner's 2D bid to look different than your partner's 2D bid in this situation.


Are you saying he wouldn't overcall on say

xxx
x
KJTxxx
Qxx
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Posted 2014-August-07, 09:17

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-August-07, 09:09, said:

Are you saying he wouldn't overcall on say

xxx
x
KJTxxx
Qxx


3♦ or pass, never 2♦
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Posted 2014-August-07, 09:20

2♣ = I wanna play 4M.

How do you feel when you want to bid 4M but opps bid 5m before? well that's what should had happened.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 09:27

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-August-07, 09:09, said:

Are you saying he wouldn't overcall on say

xxx
x
KJTxxx
Qxx

Yes, at RED, that is exactly what I am saying. 2D takes up no room; Partner knows Opener will be bidding 4M; and, there would be no earthly reason to bid 2D except to encourage partner to bid at the 5-level.

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Posted 2014-August-07, 13:38

View Poststeve2005, on 2014-August-06, 19:09, said:

whats 2♥ by opp?

It appears natural, but agree I want to know, and would ask immediately.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 16:00

View Postbillw55, on 2014-August-07, 13:38, said:

It appears natural, but agree I want to know, and would ask immediately.


If it has not been alerted, you know that it's a mistake to ask, right?
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Posted 2014-August-07, 16:26

Well, LHO has a strong 2 and RHO bid over 2♦... since I got 10, I don't think pard can have much.
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Posted 2014-August-07, 17:05

View Postwhereagles, on 2014-August-07, 16:26, said:

Well, LHO has a strong 2 and RHO bid over 2♦... since I got 10, I don't think pard can have much.


Just pretend you are playing 1$/2$ poker and raise the size of the pot. Nobody playing "Benji" will come up with the correct counter (if there is one) more than one time in two.
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Posted 2014-August-08, 01:44

You make it sound like 4♠ goes down lol.
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