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Freak hand from NABC GNT finals...

Poll: Freak hand from NABC GNT finals... (21 member(s) have cast votes)

What's your plan?

  1. Open 5D, sell out to 5M (pard passes) (14 votes [66.67%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 66.67%

  2. Open 5D, bid 6 clubs over 5M (pard passes) (3 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

  3. Open 5D, bid 6 diamonds over 5M (pard passes) (1 votes [4.76%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 4.76%

  4. Pass and wait to see what happens (please specify) (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  5. Other (please specify) (3 votes [14.29%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 14.29%

What do you do if the opponents bid 6M (pard passes)?

  1. Pass (15 votes [71.43%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 71.43%

  2. 7C (4 votes [19.05%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 19.05%

  3. 7D (2 votes [9.52%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 9.52%

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#1 User is offline   foobar 

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Posted 2014-July-21, 11:30

Here's a hand from the recent GNT B finals that contributed to our defeat.

All vulnerable, North deals and passes to you. What is your plan with this hand?


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Posted 2014-July-21, 16:10

As a nonexpert B player I would open 5d and then be quiet and let them make the last guess.

This reminds me of a hand from the other night. I opened 5d vul vs not, it went pass, pass 6h on my right...my pard then backed in with 7d then double on my left for 800. they were cold for 7h and 7s. the problem was our teammates played in 5h.
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Posted 2014-July-21, 17:00

I would open 4. For me 5 would be better suit notwithstanding the side 5-card suit which no doubt enticed you.
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Posted 2014-July-21, 17:06

bit of guesswork here.. I guess 4D + 5C and pass thereafter
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Posted 2014-July-21, 17:29

I'd also bid 5 and pass thereafter.

It looks like you have 4 losers without any help from partner. You might have 5 losers if the opponents can somehow find a ruff.

If the opponents bid at the 5 level, I sit because I don't want to push them into a makeable slam that they wouldn't bid on their own.
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Posted 2014-July-21, 21:54

View Postrmnka447, on 2014-July-21, 17:29, said:

I'd also bid 5 and pass thereafter.

It looks like you have 4 losers without any help from partner. You might have 5 losers if the opponents can somehow find a ruff.

If the opponents bid at the 5 level, I sit because I don't want to push them into a makeable slam that they wouldn't bid on their own.

Yes, we agree. Bid 5 and see where the chips fall. Maybe the opps guess right, maybe not. Maybe PD can raise and then the opps go wrong.

With 7 HCP and a crazy ODR and zero cards in the majors I want to bid a lot instantly.
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Posted 2014-July-22, 00:57

I think 1!d is a possibility, as is 4nt, as is 1nt.

Congrats on making it to the finals and destroying a very good team in the semis.
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Posted 2014-July-22, 05:04

5d. No second choice.
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Posted 2014-July-22, 08:10

rho has passed lot some of it luster since it is 5050 which player we will preempt the
most. I favor a simpler

4d

bid at these colors since 4h/s might be our last makeable spot and we arbitrarily bypass that with
5d on a coin flip. We have the ability to bid all the way to 7d (forget clubs) on our own and expect to
to down no more than 1100/1400 (less than their slam).. the 4d bid gets the idea of our 1 suited little/no
defense type hand to partner so we can safely honor all x they may make if lho bids and we can continue
to sac if p cannot x their 6 level bids (we might more happily subside if p cannot x their 5 level bid).
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Posted 2014-July-23, 04:40

View Postgszes, on 2014-July-22, 08:10, said:

rho has passed lot some of it luster since it is 5050 which player we will preempt the
most. I favor a simpler

4d

bid at these colors since 4h/s might be our last makeable spot and we arbitrarily bypass that with
5d on a coin flip. We have the ability to bid all the way to 7d (forget clubs) on our own and expect to
to down no more than 1100/1400 (less than their slam).. the 4d bid gets the idea of our 1 suited little/no
defense type hand to partner so we can safely honor all x they may make if lho bids and we can continue
to sac if p cannot x their 6 level bids (we might more happily subside if p cannot x their 5 level bid).



one suited? I thought I saw some clubs.
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Posted 2014-July-25, 19:56

Thanks for the responses. Here's what happened at the tables (OP was sitting out).

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Posted 2014-July-26, 06:29

lol at the passers. you must get more 8-5 hands than i do. i'm not letting the opps play this one until i run out of bids or partner applies a red card.
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Posted 2014-July-26, 10:46

Do you really bid 5 here with South's hand over 5?
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Posted 2014-July-26, 20:58

View Postthe hog, on 2014-July-23, 04:40, said:

one suited? I thought I saw some clubs.


:) you went from 5d no 2nd choice to worrying about clubs sigh I thought we were a kindred spirit
for a moment----far too easy to completely lose the dia suit if p does not have a huge club
preference----it is a form of insurance to forget about club:)
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Posted 2014-July-31, 04:56

View Postgszes, on 2014-July-22, 08:10, said:

... I favor a simpler

4d

bid at these colors since 4h/s might be our last makeable spot and we arbitrarily bypass that with
5d on a coin flip. ...


But bidding 4 also preempts your own side from 3nt(which also might be your last making contract) :)
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Posted 2014-July-31, 06:17

View PostDrMunk, on 2014-July-31, 04:56, said:

But bidding 4 also preempts your own side from 3nt(which also might be your last making contract) :)



well maybe you better pass because ds might break 5-0 and you cannot even make 1.
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Posted 2014-July-31, 06:17

View PostDrMunk, on 2014-July-31, 04:56, said:

But bidding 4 also preempts your own side from 3nt(which also might be your last making contract) :)



well maybe you better pass because ds might break 5-0 and you cannot even make 1.
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