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How to handle opps 1 di opener showing 2+ dis and 11-14 hcp

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Posted 2014-July-16, 12:32

Are there tips out there as to how to handle a 1 di opener (by opponent)that shows 2+ dis and 11-15 hcp?

the pair plays precision with a 15-17 hcp 1nt opener.

This pair apparently opens 1 di with any hand with less than 15 hcp that has at least 2 dis and no 5 card major(even a decent 5 card club suit is allowed).

Thanks in advance!

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Posted 2014-July-16, 12:46

There are three ways to handle this:
1.) If you double 1 and then bid 2 or 3 , that it shows a real diamond suit.
2.) Bidding 2 directly shows 5+ and an overcalling hand. With a Michaels hand, X and then bid 2.
3.) Forget the fact that 1 might 'only be 2' and play what you normally do! According to Jan Eric Larsson (creator of the Tangerine Club), only 10% of the time will 1 have 2 and only 19% of the time will it be on 3. Therefore, 71% of the time it will be on 4+.

In my established partnerships, I play #2 because we have discussed all the possibilities and so shouldn't have any mistakes

With any pick-up partner, I play #3. We will be better off than the room because we won't make a mistake worrying about Diamonds.
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Posted 2014-July-16, 13:23

Just treat it as "natural" but accept that double makes few promises about clubs (for example, with a 4432 12 count, you can double 1 with no guilt - lacking a major, partner can respond 1NT without a stop).

Other sequences are unchanged, so opposite an overcall, 2 is a raise.

Pass then diamonds is natural, of course, as are any single jumps in diamonds.
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Posted 2014-July-16, 19:47

Here's a popular solution you might like.
http://bridgewinners...-secret-weapon/

I've used this and it works well.
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Posted 2014-July-17, 08:28

View PostSteveMoe, on 2014-July-16, 19:47, said:

Here's a popular solution you might like.
http://bridgewinners...-secret-weapon/

I've used this and it works well.


Thanks! I like this a lot!
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Posted 2014-July-17, 12:52

View PostSteveMoe, on 2014-July-16, 19:47, said:

Here's a popular solution you might like.
http://bridgewinners...-secret-weapon/

I've used this and it works well.


I'll take the under - it's pretty much a nailed-on recipe for disaster.
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Posted 2014-July-17, 13:36

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-July-16, 13:23, said:

(for example, with a 4432 12 count, you can double 1 with no guilt - lacking a major, partner can respond 1NT without a stop).



How is this different than against standard? :P
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Posted 2014-July-17, 16:52

View PostPhantomSac, on 2014-July-17, 13:36, said:

How is this different than against standard? :P


Baby steps.

The truth is we would probably both double with a 4441 with a stiff club, but let's get there one card at a time.
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