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#1 User is offline   Wackojack 

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Posted 2014-June-29, 05:58

Monaco v Bulgaria B25



2= 10-13 6 hearts or 5 + outside singleton/void
4 assume weak 4 card support

Fantoni's 5 bid was praised by all the commentators. Yet to me 5 is the type of bid that beginners make. Put me right
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Posted 2014-June-29, 07:33

I think the key here is that he has 3 spades so will be ruffing some in the short hand (and the vulnerability). He wants partner to have x, Axxx, any 8 cards (or Q and a minor suit Q) and even that is only 500 vs 620. I'm not sure I'd find it though, if I made the bid, partner would have xx, Jxxxx, QJx, Qxx and I'd be dialling a gazillion against nothing.
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Posted 2014-June-29, 11:13

View PostWackojack, on 2014-June-29, 05:58, said:

Fantoni's 5 bid was praised by all the commentators.


I'm guessing it worked then
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Posted 2014-June-29, 15:51

View PostCyberyeti, on 2014-June-29, 07:33, said:

I think the key here is that he has 3 spades so will be ruffing some in the short hand (and the vulnerability). He wants partner to have x, Axxx, any 8 cards (or Q and a minor suit Q) and even that is only 500 vs 620. I'm not sure I'd find it though, if I made the bid, partner would have xx, Jxxxx, QJx, Qxx and I'd be dialling a gazillion against nothing.


It's not unknown for the opponents to be in a 4-3 fit on this auction.

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Fantoni's 5♥ bid was praised by all the commentators. Yet to me 5♥ is the type of bid that beginners make. Put me right


If I'd been commentating, my "praise" would have been along the lines of "not a bid I would have found".
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Posted 2014-June-29, 15:53

View PostCyberyeti, on 2014-June-29, 07:33, said:

I think the key here is that he has 3 spades so will be ruffing some in the short hand (and the vulnerability). He wants partner to have x, Axxx, any 8 cards (or Q and a minor suit Q) and even that is only 500 vs 620.

Or possibly 500 against 1430.
... that would still not be conclusive proof, before someone wants to explain that to me as well as if I was a 5 year-old. - gwnn
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Posted 2014-June-29, 16:04

View PostMickyB, on 2014-June-29, 11:13, said:

I'm guessing it worked then



View Postjallerton, on 2014-June-29, 15:51, said:

If I'd been commentating, my "praise" would have been along the lines of "not a bid I would have found".


The commentary was along the lines of "that must be why he's a world champion and we're sitting here".
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Posted 2014-June-30, 00:40

Well! if they have a slam on they WILL bid it.Slam is likeky as it is my LHO who has dbled and RHO has VOLUNTARILY bid 4S in a vulnerable position.5H is not likely to be a successful bid as it is likely to convey that you have no void anywhere.As a beginner I would refrain from bidding 5 H.
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Posted 2014-June-30, 06:09

Did any of the players have a cold?
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Posted 2014-July-01, 00:29

View PostWackojack, on 2014-June-29, 05:58, said:

Fantoni's 5 bid was praised by all the commentators.


Must be the right bid if it was written on the internet. And how do I know that? I read it on the internet.
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Posted 2014-July-01, 01:08

of course it was praised.. they knew the 4 hands LOL
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Posted 2014-July-04, 16:27

Maybe 4H at this vul is a incentive to defend? maybe is an agreement...
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Posted 2014-July-05, 18:50

Clear pass for me.
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