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Which suit is more likely to misbehave?

#1 User is offline   1eyedjack 

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Posted 2014-June-26, 13:53


Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Posted 2014-June-26, 14:39

Rather than reach North with the Q, you decide to overtake the 10 ... only to find out that the are 5-1 .

On the other hand, let's say you don't overtake the 10.

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Posted 2014-June-26, 15:23

I would let the heart hold and cross in clubs.

If east had a club void, I imagine he would (under)lead a diamond.

If west has a club void, that means he's got a 4 card major, which GIB tells us is impossible :P
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Posted 2014-June-26, 16:02

So Idiotbot couldn't pass 3NT?
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Posted 2014-June-26, 16:43

With no information to work with I would overtake the heart T hold rather than gamble against
40 clubs but this hand is a tad puzzling. Lho apparently has a spade sequence diamond support
and is probably relatively short in clubs yet managed to squeak out only a mere 3d bid why is that?

I would suspect they have lots of hearts and did not want to discourage your side from
bidding them so I go against the odds a bit and let the heart T hold and try and cross in
clubs.
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Posted 2014-June-26, 17:44

Thanks. Maybe it is a close decision.



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Psych (pron. saik): A gross and deliberate misstatement of honour strength and/or suit length. Expressly permitted under Law 73E but forbidden contrary to that law by Acol club tourneys.

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Posted 2014-June-26, 18:04

wrong again
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Posted 2014-June-27, 08:26

View Postkuhchung, on 2014-June-26, 18:04, said:

wrong again

:) but think about it GIB actually didn't lie they don't have a 4 card major --
they have five hehe- I'll bet somewhere there is a lawyer trying to get out of
a programmer's shell.
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Posted 2014-June-27, 14:02

Unlucky, but the statistics are way in favor of running into a 5-1 or 6-0 heart split than a 4-0 club split when you take vacant space calculations into effect (only assuming diamonds are 6-3). IF you add the "fact" that the KQJ with the opening leader, which would even up the vacant space the odds still suggest 5-1 or 6-0 heart split is more common than 4-0 club split. Don't let one hand get you to play against the odds.
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Posted 2014-June-27, 15:09

Since West is a robot, the 8 is never a falsecard. And robots give standard count, if any.

On the assumption that West has 1 or 2 spades, overtaking the heart is indicated within the weak 2 parameters advertised. West's possible shapes are:

1363
2164
1264
2362
2263

In the case when West is 2164, we have no winning line, since he is bound to have the diamond ace. We gain when he is 1264 and all other cases are a wash.

edit - GIB signals as follows:

When it's following to partner's opening lead, it will give an attitude signal:
High spot card with an Ace or King
High spot card with a Queen behind dummy's Ace or King
Low in any other situation


Which marks the spade as a singleton, so overtake the heart and claim.
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