[1eyedjack]

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IMP, best hand South, Pro GIB 30

This hand is to revisit a complaint that I made too many months ago to find it now, although I am sure I have made it several times.

The basic principle of my complaint is that having completed its hand description and hearing a non-forcing bid from partner, by default it should then pass.

What it seems to be doing here, and I have to say it does it every time, is that having determined that there is an 8 card major suit fit it WILL NOT accept 3NT as a possible contract.

What it appears to disregard, but should not, is the fact that it has already announced an 8+ card major suit fit, and South, in full knowledge of that fit, and known to both parties to the partnership to be in possession of that knowledge, has chosen 3N as likely the best spot.

Has North a hand that suggests overriding South's suggestion? In context, he could hardly be more suitable for concurring with South's preference for 3N.

[1eyedjack]

Try again.

To BBradley62, the above attempt is the reason why I tend to paste the hand into notepad for editing before recopying and pasting into the post, rather than pasting directly into the post and editing it there.

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IMP, best hand South, Pro GIB 30

This hand is to revisit a complaint that I made too many months ago to find it now, although I am sure I have made it several times.

The basic principle of my complaint is that having completed its hand description and hearing a non-forcing bid from partner, by default it should then pass.

What it seems to be doing here, and I have to say it does it every time, is that having determined that there is an 8 card major suit fit it WILL NOT accept 3NT as a possible contract.

What it appears to disregard, but should not, is the fact that it has already announced an 8+ card major suit fit, and South, in full knowledge of that fit, and known to both parties to the partnership to be in possession of that knowledge, has chosen 3N as likely the best spot.

Has North a hand that suggests overriding South's suggestion? In context, he could hardly be more suitable for concurring with South's preference for 3N.

[Bbradley62]

1eyedjack, on 2014-June-26, 12:58, said:

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IMP, best hand South, Pro GIB 30

This hand is to revisit a complaint that I made too many months ago to find it now, although I am sure I have made it several times.

The basic principle of my complaint is that having completed its hand description and hearing a non-forcing bid from partner, by default it should then pass.

What it seems to be doing here, and I have to say it does it every time, is that having determined that there is an 8 card major suit fit it WILL NOT accept 3NT as a possible contract.

What it appears to disregard, but should not, is the fact that it has already announced an 8+ card major suit fit, and South, in full knowledge of that fit, and known to both parties to the partnership to be in possession of that knowledge, has chosen 3N as likely the best spot.

Has North a hand that suggests overriding South's suggestion? In context, he could hardly be more suitable for concurring with South's preference for 3N.

That was weird... I've never seen it do that with pasting the url... you just have to remove the whole url part. But, I frequently edit incorrectly (for example, forgetting to put the close-bracket in front of the diagram dimensions), so I simply go back and edit my original post rather than starting from scratch.

[Bbradley62]

The problem here appears to not be North's "thinking", but rather the description of South's 3N. That description should include "2♥", not "2-5♥". Maybe then North will not consider the possibility that he's missing an 11 card fit.

[steve2005]

Bbradley62, on 2014-June-26, 15:14, said:

The problem here appears to not be North's "thinking", but rather the description of South's 3N. That description should include "2♥", not "2-5♥". Maybe then North will not consider the possibility that he's missing an 11 card fit.

2♥ description ok, Gib need a max and 4♥ to super-accept, whether that's a god policy is another question.

its the description of 3N that's wrong 2-5♥ obviously unlikely south has 4-5♥ even 3♥ would require a special hand to give up on known 9-card fit.

But this just illustrated Gib doesn't use the concept of Captaincy. Clearly south is in charge as north has limited it\s hand so should respect south's decision.



got it the other was round south is limited, north the captain

[1eyedjack]

Bbradley62, on 2014-June-26, 15:07, said:

That was weird... I've never seen it do that with pasting the url... you just have to remove the whole url part. But, I frequently edit incorrectly (for example, forgetting to put the close-bracket in front of the diagram dimensions), so I simply go back and edit my original post rather than starting from scratch.

It may be an Internet Explorer thing

[Bbradley62]

steve2005, on 2014-June-26, 16:11, said:

Bbradley62, on 2014-June-26, 15:14, said:

The problem here appears to not be North's "thinking", but rather the description of South's 3N. That description should include "2♥", not "2-5♥". Maybe then North will not consider the possibility that he's missing an 11 card fit.

2♥ description ok, Gib need a max and 4♥ to super-accept, whether that's a god policy is another question.its the description of 3N that's wrong 2-5♥ obviously unlikely south has 4-5♥ even 3♥ would require a special hand to give up on known 9-card fit...

Ummm... isn't that exactly what I said?

[ahydra]

Isn't 3NT on these kinds of auctions normally COG? North is therefore within his rights to remove 3NT - that's not to say that this particular North hand should remove 3NT, I think pass is better.

ahydra

[Bbradley62]

Does anyone know offhand what GIB's requirements are for Texas?

[georgi]

In v31, GIB will obey on partner's 3NT and will pass, not correct to 4♥.

Btw, GIB requirements for high transfers are:

11+TP with 6+M
or
9-10TP with 7+M

GIB mild slam ( 1N - 2♦/2♥ - 2♥/♠ - 4♥/♠ uncontested) is 14-15TP 6M(322)/7222