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Posted 2014-May-25, 22:19

Does some mention of heart (EDIT:length holding) belong in the description of the 4 bid?

This post has been edited by Bbradley62: 2014-May-26, 09:37

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Posted 2014-May-26, 04:42

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-May-25, 22:19, said:

Does some mention of heart length belong in the description of the 4 bid?



Great achievement for it to cue in any way.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 09:35

Agreed. I had to look at the 4 explanation, since my initial reaction was "wtf?" I still don't like the jumping response to RKC showing a void, but I seem to be in a small minority on this. My plan was to ask for K if GIB replied 5, to get to 7N, but this was IMPs, so 7 was fine.
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Posted 2014-May-26, 11:47

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-May-26, 09:35, said:

I still don't like the jumping response to RKC showing a void, but I seem to be in a small minority on this.


I don't know how this is measured, but count me in that minority.
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Posted 2014-May-27, 03:08

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-May-26, 09:35, said:

Agreed. I had to look at the 4 explanation, since my initial reaction was "wtf?" I still don't like the jumping response to RKC showing a void, but I seem to be in a small minority on this. My plan was to ask for K if GIB replied 5, to get to 7N, but this was IMPs, so 7 was fine.


This is a normal auction,as we know that Gib never play exclusion,this hand showed Gib play mini-splinter convention.
So in other words,this is just an option to the bidding gadgets,only.
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Posted 2014-November-27, 11:05

This is an hand where if void is not signalled (4 instead 4) you can have information of void : 4NT ? 5 =1 keycard with RKB0314 (to prefer if trump is clubs) 5 ? for Queen 5 NT yes with a void .. as i have indicated in (see) "RKC 0314".(Lovera)
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Posted 2014-November-27, 19:30

But both auctions (the actual one and the one suggested by Lucera) prevent me from asking for kings, unless North would prioritize showing the K over the void if he held both.

But, the primary purpose of this thread was to request an improvement in the explanation that GIB provides for 4.
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Posted 2014-December-01, 09:10

View PostBbradley62, on 2014-November-27, 19:30, said:

But both auctions (the actual one and the one suggested by Lucera) prevent me from asking for kings, unless North would prioritize showing the K over the void if he held both.

But, the primary purpose of this thread was to request an improvement in the explanation that GIB provides for 4.

You can have information about King bidding directly 6 =have the King ? If positive N bids 6 NT(=i have the King of spade at any aside) otherwise 7 denies the King. Only so you can have the information to use in subsequent contract level (i. e. 6NT of N to play 7NT)
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