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Lord Molyb disagrees with 90% of the club

#21 User is offline   whereagles 

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Posted 2014-April-08, 14:39

No agreement means 4H = natural, so that's my bid.
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Posted 2014-April-08, 15:45

Serious question - do you go by the name of Lord Moly B down at the club? :ph34r:
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Posted 2014-April-08, 15:50

If 90% of the club agrees on something, then that is what is "standard" there. If playing with a pickup partner or if having an undiscussed sequence with a newish partner, when in Rome...
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Posted 2014-April-08, 16:50

chances of making 4h are pretty slim opposite any minimum
so I prefer a 3h bid which has to be taken as natural unless
otherwise advised. No where near the power needed for a 2h bid
and x seems really scary when one realizes p may pass it (ewwww).

A second advantage of 3h is that the dia suit becomes very tough for
the opps to bid in case they have a huge fit there. 2h accomplishes this
but not as well. I agree with the novice.
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Posted 2014-April-08, 18:45

View PostCSGibson, on 2014-April-08, 10:02, said:

I don't think 4♥ has a standard meaning, and I would never bid it in this auction without an agreement as to what it was. My default agreement is that it is a fit jump,


3♥ too?
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Posted 2014-April-08, 18:51

View PostVampyr, on 2014-April-08, 18:45, said:

3♥ too?


yeah. 3♥ too. Or, more specifically, they are raises with values/shape and a desire for a heart lead should we be defending.
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Posted 2014-April-08, 19:25

View PostPhilKing, on 2014-April-08, 15:45, said:

Serious question - do you go by the name of Lord Moly B down at the club? :ph34r:

No, that's just my username on BBO
Become yourself.
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Posted 2014-April-25, 03:59

Just as an add to this, from memory Robson-Segal suggests all such jumps to 4M being natural except this one, where our suit is spades. They play this one as a fit jump. So clearly there is not a universal standard here. Without agreement 4♥ should be to play though.
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Posted 2014-May-01, 07:48

It is difficult to play without agreements, but in their absence I would have thought all of 2♥ 3♥ and 4♥ were natural. If you have not agreed non-forcing free bids then 2♥ has to be the strongest of these, so therefore I would not bid that. However, I may not disagree with 90% of the club, because they may all play 2♥ as non-forcing.
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Posted 2014-May-01, 21:06

If your not 100% sure about your agreements its natural. Using a jump to 4M as fit jump is a lame agreement imo. Planning to go 3M (forcing) followed by 4M if fine when the opps are friendly enough to pass but it doesnt always go that way.
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