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Your turn to bid

Poll: Your turn to bid (33 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you bid now ?

  1. Pass (27 votes [81.82%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 81.82%

  2. 4 Spade (6 votes [18.18%] - View)

    Percentage of vote: 18.18%

  3. Something else (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   MrAce 

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Posted 2014-March-18, 03:41



2♣ was inverted 1 round forcing.

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Posted 2014-March-18, 07:54

Pass. I already stuck my neck out far enough with that crappy 2♠ bid, vulnerable, against two unlimited opponents. Partner is surely expecting better. For all I know we are already -500.
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Posted 2014-March-18, 09:42

 billw55, on 2014-March-18, 07:54, said:

Pass. I already stuck my neck out far enough with that crappy 2♠ bid, vulnerable, against two unlimited opponents. Partner is surely expecting better. For all I know we are already -500.

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Posted 2014-March-18, 10:03

This seems like such a clear pass that I am obviously missing something. Isn't partner supposed to compete to the 3 level with some KJxx xx Jxxxx xx sort of hand?
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Posted 2014-March-18, 12:49

I'd pass. Partner could have bid 3♦ or 3♥, both of which are fit bids inviting me to bid more than 3♠. Instead, he bid 3♠, not really inviting me to do anything.
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Posted 2014-March-18, 12:55

I'm with all the passers. The opponents have the majority of the points, but they're apparently stopping in a part-score. Why stick your neck out?

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Posted 2014-March-18, 13:00

I guess I have to pass this since I would have passed 2♣
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Posted 2014-March-18, 13:04

One person has voted for 4♠ so far. I'm not sure how confident they are, since they didn't post a justification.

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Posted 2014-March-18, 14:38

oops, errant post
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Posted 2014-March-18, 18:10

A totally obvious pass.
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Posted 2014-March-18, 21:39

No objection to the 2S prebalance. Seemed automatic. Suspect Boze misclicked the 4S bid.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 04:29

hmm... actually, FTL lore says game might easily be on. Even with a 4333 across, the "SST" is -3, so you need 20 working points to scramble 10 tricks. We got 8 or 11 (depending on the diamond finesse) and auction hints at pard having no club wastage, so to find 8-9 WP across isn't that hard. (E.g. AJx Kxx xxxx xxx.)

Since it's vuln at imps, I think I would go for 4♠.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 04:33

 whereagles, on 2014-March-19, 04:29, said:

We got 8 or 11 (depending on the diamond finesse) and auction hints at pard having no club wastage, so to find 8-9 WP across isn't that hard. (E.g. AJx Kxx xxxx xxx.)

We have 11 HCP, RHO promised 10+ and didn't compete over 3S, LHO opened (I know, he has a minimum, but still a minimum opening). Don't you think it is a bit hard to find partner with 8 well-placed HCP? You can use HCP, FTL, LTC, ODR, K&R, but partner will still almost always be broke.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 04:41

Pass. Partner's 3♠ was not an invitation to bid 4. And even if it was, I wouldn't accept it.

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Posted 2014-March-19, 04:44



This was the whole deal. I passed 3♠ and just made it when both spade and diamond finesses failed. I think we should be in game. Don't know how though, since i also believed i have a clear pass.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 05:16

All honours are working except for ♣JT and ♦T. Still, even if one finese works you can go down with spades 4-0 or a heart ruff. So I wouldn't worry too much about it.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 06:34

They lied about inverted, or use 3-syllable words they don't understand.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 06:49

OK, both hooks were wrong. On the other hand, east doesn't have his bid, and north is heavy for his. I still think pass is clear. If you want to reach game, IMO you need a different call for north's hand.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 07:27

We are vul and it's imps, 4S may well make and I do not wnt to miss it. Mark me up for 4S.
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Posted 2014-March-19, 08:25

Looking at the NS hands together, game seems pretty good, needing one of two finesses. But North might bid the same way without the ♥ K or T. This is a pretty extreme hand -- West has a minimum for his opening, and East doesn't have his inverted raise. If the opponents really had full values for their bids, there's no way you can expect such a helpful dummy.
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