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mps, all play sayc, lho opens 1h, p dbles, rho raises to 2h
you hold:
♠xxx
♥Kxxx
♦xx
♣A10xx
what do you bid. is there a difference whether vul or not?
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3level competition do you enter the bidding?
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Posted 2014-March-16, 11:02
luckyloser, on 2014-March-16, 08:34, said:
mps, all play sayc, lho opens 1h, p dbles, rho raises to 2h
you hold:
♠xxx
♥Kxxx
♦xx
♣A10xx
what do you bid. is there a difference whether vul or not?
you hold:
♠xxx
♥Kxxx
♦xx
♣A10xx
what do you bid. is there a difference whether vul or not?
3♣ NV though I don't play much at MPs.
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Posted 2014-March-16, 15:17
3♣ on any vul, any scoring.
Opponents have 8 hearts, your side has 8-9 clubs, more than enough to bid 3♣
This also helps you to protect your ♥ K on the opening lead as well as putting their strong hand on lead.Despite the fact that your ♥ K is in front of opener, you still have decent values, ♥ K prevents them from using this suit efficiently for entries, creates problems on the lead.
If pd bids 3♦ over 3♣ you bid 3 NT, you have enough values for it vs a strong hand that was too good to start overcall
If pd bids spades instead, you have an easy raise.
Opponents have 8 hearts, your side has 8-9 clubs, more than enough to bid 3♣
This also helps you to protect your ♥ K on the opening lead as well as putting their strong hand on lead.Despite the fact that your ♥ K is in front of opener, you still have decent values, ♥ K prevents them from using this suit efficiently for entries, creates problems on the lead.
If pd bids 3♦ over 3♣ you bid 3 NT, you have enough values for it vs a strong hand that was too good to start overcall
If pd bids spades instead, you have an easy raise.
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Posted 2014-March-17, 06:36
how can you be sure to hold 8 cards in ♣? p has promised 3, not more!
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Posted 2014-March-17, 08:08
I think i will pass, partner should reopen most of the times if 2H is a trash raise, due to use having a possibility oh having a heart trapping. Over his reopen double i suppose you can bid 3C or 2S depending on your agreements.
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Posted 2014-March-17, 08:08
Pass for me at any vul.
vul is critical on such decisions but imo this hand isnt enough even when nv.
vul is critical on such decisions but imo this hand isnt enough even when nv.
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Posted 2014-March-17, 09:45
id do 3♣ NV. hoping to push opp to 3♥. even though im not convinced we have 8♣. the hand doesn't have much prospects if partner doesn't have 4-5♣. So vul I pass too easy to go -2 or doubled -1
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Posted 2014-March-17, 10:42
The only time I would think about bidding is Love All at MPs - then it is relatively close.
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Posted 2014-March-17, 16:03
luckyloser, on 2014-March-17, 06:36, said:
how can you be sure to hold 8 cards in ♣? p has promised 3, not more!
I am so sorry, for some reason i see our clubs Axxxx. (A10xx makes it look longer than other 4 card suit Kxxx) Then my reply would make sense.
Disregard my comments.
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Posted 2014-March-18, 13:55
luckyloser, on 2014-March-17, 06:36, said:
how can you be sure to hold 8 cards in ♣? p has promised 3, not more!
Because you have 4 hearts. Pard is like a 95% favorite to have 4144 or 4153/4135. Bidding 3♣ is only bad if pard happens to be 4153, and even then you might manage to scramble 9 tricks.
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