People who join a table then immediately leave
#1
Posted 2013-August-19, 11:54
#2
Posted 2013-August-19, 11:59
-gwnn
#3
Posted 2013-August-19, 13:56
#4
Posted 2013-August-30, 14:53
With no way to specify the conventions that one plays, the only way to find a partner who plays the same bidding is to drop to a table, look at the profile, and leave if a mismatch. How anyone can bid with a partner who's profile is blank, relative to conventions is a mystery to me!
I must jump in several tables before finding someone who plays SAYC, like I do. I never bid or take any action, just jump in, read profile, and jump out.
Is that a bad thing? If so, consider fixing the 'take me to a seat' function to allow some selection criteria based on conventions.
#5
Posted 2013-August-31, 21:06
#6
Posted 2013-September-06, 16:49
Some improvement could certainly be made to the process of finding a game.
Ideas:
based on number of logins (eliminates drop-ins or beginners)
based on conventions played. I realize profiles are not structured - how about profiles that contain a keyword, like "SAYC" or "Precision" or "ACOL"? Better than nothing...
based on skill level (not to reopen the skill level debate )
on country (would help those wanting a specific language)
Longer-term, improvements to profiles could open up a lot of better selection options.
Not having to write the code, I have loads of ideas.....
#7
Posted 2013-September-06, 22:12
If you assume that a player with blank profile is familiar with, and expects to be playing by default, Standard American then you will be wrong sufficiently rarely that you should find your table hopping policy to be the greater inconvenience, to yourself never mind to others at tables that you fleetingly visit.
Think of it as akin to a cut-in rubber bridge club. You cut in, get a random unfamiliar partner, deal, play and away you go. No faffing about with systems. Aint nobody got time for that. Eats into profits.
There is I think something in what you say however. In MBC you really have no chance to review tables with open seats, select the table most to your liking and then sit. By the time that you have made your selection the selected table will be full. If you wish to get a seat (ANY seat) then your only chance is to sit at random and THEN decide if pot luck is in your favour, leaving if otherwise. Not helped by the Flash interface which does not instantly autorefresh. Table hopping is therefore actively promoted by the software design.
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#8
Posted 2013-September-06, 22:26
#9
Posted 2013-September-07, 04:42
#10
Posted 2013-September-07, 17:38
I still hold to my suggestion that options could be added to 'take me to a table' to improve the partner matchups.
@1eyedjack - I've not had luck trying partners with blank profiles. I don't believe that blank means 'I'll play any system' - rather it means 'I'm too lazy or new to fill out my profile'
In any case, taking the advice here, I've curbed my table hopping in favor of frustrating speed-clicking attempts in 'view open tables'.....
#11
Posted 2013-September-08, 05:20
OldPlayr, on 2013-September-07, 17:38, said:
I agree - I also don't believe that blank means "I'll play any system". It means "I'll play Standard American (until agreed otherwise)", as I said earlier (or BBO standard, if you wish, which means much the same, and is published on the website somewhere).
Psyche (pron. sahy-kee): The human soul, spirit or mind (derived, personification thereof, beloved of Eros, Greek myth).
Masterminding (pron. mstr-mnding) tr. v. - Any bid made by bridge player with which partner disagrees.
"Gentlemen, when the barrage lifts." 9th battalion, King's own Yorkshire light infantry,
2000 years earlier: "morituri te salutant"
"I will be with you, whatever". Blair to Bush, precursor to invasion of Iraq
#12
Posted 2013-September-09, 15:02
OldPlayr, on 2013-August-30, 14:53, said:
LOL.
How anyone can bid with a partner without first saying hello and asking them which system they would like to play is a mystery to me!
Have you ever considered that someone might know more conventions, or even bidding systems, than will fit into the profile text and not particularly care which of them he/she plays?
-- Bertrand Russell
#13
Posted 2013-September-09, 15:59
mgoetze, on 2013-September-09, 15:02, said:
How anyone can bid with a partner without first saying hello and asking them which system they would like to play is a mystery to me!
Have you ever considered that someone might know more conventions, or even bidding systems, than will fit into the profile text and not particularly care which of them he/she plays?
One would think that someone who was fluent in everything with write something to that effect in their profile, instead of leaving it blank? I've seen profiles like that - "will play your system".
Blank to me is a sign to find another partner. If I have to ask or guess, I'll go elsewhere.
#14
Posted 2013-September-09, 18:29
#15
Posted 2013-September-09, 19:40
You revealed later that you have your chat screen hidden/minimized. !! I suggest that you may be the cause of many of your problems. I can imagine that your partners, with or without profiles are attempting
to discuss system approach with you, receive no response so naturally, give up and leave the table.
You may want to try communicating with partners before complaining on here.
#16
Posted 2013-September-09, 22:14
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In the old version, you moused over the names of the players and saw the profiles before you ever joined the table. That has become (much) harder in the web version. Still, the profile space is so limited that you really do have to expect some conversation before you can start.
#17
Posted 2013-September-09, 22:33
#18
Posted 2013-September-10, 06:43
Siegmund, on 2013-September-09, 22:14, said:
Yes, much harder now. You must hover and click, instead of just hover. Tough stuff
-gwnn
#19
Posted 2013-September-10, 07:52
Siegmund, on 2013-September-09, 22:14, said:
Click "Options" (blue button at top) then "More options" on the menu that appears. You will see a dialog box. Click the "Advanced options" tab.
You will see a checkbox for "Show profile upon mouse over". If you check this option you will get the behavior you want.
Fred Gitelman
Bridge Base Inc.
www.bridgebase.com
#20
Posted 2013-September-10, 09:28
diana_eva, on 2013-September-09, 18:29, said:
I don't play with randoms very often. The only times I've played in the MBC in recent years has been when I've been practicing with a new partner, and we need opponents. I almost never see them discuss system. People just take a seat and start bidding.
So what you think should be "natural" is not how things actually happen in online bridge.