[Cyberyeti]

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Do you take the money at matchpoints ? or if not what do you do ?

In your style the ToX would tend to be 7+ with 4♥ and either 4-5♣ or 3♠ or both. Your 1♠ is 4+ cards but will be 5 unless 15-19 4333.

[nigel_k]

I would pass and expect to get 500 more often than not.

[mcphee]

I will go for the shot at +500. I may be a bit unhappy now and again when partner has shaded the double when they are 5/5. I am getting the S lead and do not think declarer is reaching dummy too often.

[billw55]

Pass at these colors only, otherwise 3NT.

[MrAce]

Pass at MP

Pass at IMP

[Cyberyeti]

Btw, what would you do if the auction had gone 1♠-3♦-P-P ?

[gszes]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-June-03, 11:39, said:

Btw, what would you do if the auction had gone 1♠-3♦-P-P ?

got here late pass if we are NVUL (else 3n) and 3n if lho bids 3d

[PhilKing]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-June-03, 11:39, said:

Btw, what would you do if the auction had gone 1♠-3♦-P-P ?

Rethink my previous slam-dunk penalty pass?

[Cyberyeti]

PhilKing, on 2013-June-03, 13:48, said:

Rethink my previous slam-dunk penalty pass?

And this was the rub, it's a bad 2♦ overcall, it's a worse 3♦ overcall, but I suspect 2♦ is 500/800, 3♦ is -300/400 either going off 3/4 or 3N=. Partner's hand is J9x, Qxxx, J7, K109x, 3N is solid, 4♠ I suspect goes off (overcaller has ♠Kxx and a doubleton club. Dummy has ♥K, declarer has J)

[FrancesHinden]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-June-03, 14:22, said:

And this was the rub, it's a bad 2♦ overcall, it's a worse 3♦ overcall, but I suspect 2♦ is 500/800, 3♦ is -300/400 either going off 3/4 or 3N=. Partner's hand is J9x, Qxxx, J7, K109x, 3N is solid, 4♠ I suspect goes off (overcaller has ♠Kxx and a doubleton club. Dummy has ♥K, declarer has J)

4S is certainly cold on a top diamond lead and made easily at both tables I know of.
The overcaller has K9 J9xx AK107x 8x and dummy has J8x Qxxx Jx K109x

[Cyberyeti]

FrancesHinden, on 2013-June-03, 15:56, said:

4S is certainly cold on a top diamond lead and made easily at both tables I know of.
The overcaller has K9 J9xx AK107x 8x and dummy has J8x Qxxx Jx K109x

OK, thought he had the 3rd spade for some reason, we didn't really care as we collected 500, 3N is much better than 4♠ though, 9♠ in the small hand is enough to beat 4♠.

Edit, am I missing something, how do you proceed in 4♠on 3 rounds of diamonds and a 4th when in with K♠

[jallerton]

Ruff the 3rd diamond with ♠8 and preserve ♠J to take care of the 4th round.

[Cyberyeti]

jallerton, on 2013-June-03, 16:23, said:

Ruff the 3rd diamond with ♠8 and preserve ♠J to take care of the 4th round.

Hmm, you can do this provided you play for the diamond hand to hold exactly ♠K9 double and 2 clubs. It looks like it's the only thing to play for but I'm not sure.

[PhilKing]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-June-03, 17:25, said:

Hmm, you can do this provided you play for the diamond hand to hold exactly ♠K9 double and 2 clubs. It looks like it's the only thing to play for but I'm not sure.

You are right not to be sure. It is possible to make it if West has:

♠K9 ♥J95 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

♠K9 ♥K95 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

♠K96 ♥J9 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

♠K96 ♥K9 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

But a different line is required each time.

[Fluffy]

If passing a take out double is remotely an option on this forum it is always the main answer , at least this time I agree.

[bigbenvic]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-June-02, 15:44, said:

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Do you take the money at matchpoints ? or if not what do you do ?

In your style the ToX would tend to be 7+ with 4♥ and either 4-5♣ or 3♠ or both. Your 1♠ is 4+ cards but will be 5 unless 15-19 4333.

My only concern is that partner might be 3415 and slam is a possibility.

Kxx, Kxxx x KJxxx isn't out of the question though it is a bit specific. We'll take a bunch of tricks defending 2 diamonds, 4 blacks, a couple of hearts, a trump and many possibilities of extra with tapping declarer giving us another 3 off is 800 and that's when slam is close, so I pass as it's more likely that we are getting at least 500 VS a 430/450 type score. And 800 is a possibility if partner has more than 1 trump!

[Cyberyeti]

PhilKing, on 2013-June-03, 17:54, said:

You are right not to be sure. It is possible to make it if West has:

♠K9 ♥J95 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

♠K9 ♥K95 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

♠K96 ♥J9 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

♠K96 ♥K9 ♦AKT73 ♣J43

But a different line is required each time.

So the question is, how do you play it single dummy if 3 rounds of diamonds are led ?

[PhilKing]

Cyberyeti, on 2013-June-04, 05:05, said:

So the question is, how do you play it single dummy if 3 rounds of diamonds are led ?

I ruff the third round with the jack and play spades from the top. I think this caters for most possibilities (including some of the 9x combos with East).

East's discard may have some bearing, though. Basically, I am playing West to have Kxx in spades, the club jack and a heart honour (either will do, and I expect the defence to tell me who has the king). This seems a lot better than playing West for 2452 precisely with K9 doubleton. As you have worked out, if West had K9 Jxx AKTxx Jxx, East can prevent us enjoying dummy's club winner.

In the ending, West gets squeezed in the round suits.

[Cyberyeti]

PhilKing, on 2013-June-04, 06:01, said:

I ruff the third round with the jack and play spades from the top. I think this caters for most possibilities (including some of the 9x combos with East).

East's discard may have some bearing, though. Basically, I am playing West to have Kxx in spades, the club jack and a heart honour (either will do, and I expect the defence to tell me who has the king). This seems a lot better than playing West for 2452 precisely with K9 doubleton. As you have worked out, if West had K9 Jxx AKTxx Jxx, East can prevent us enjoying dummy's club winner.

In the ending, West gets squeezed in the round suits.

Interesting, I suspect you change tack when the 9♠ drops under the A, cash ♣AQ, ruff the 4th ♦ with the 8 and pitch your heart on the club K, so that works in this case.

Really unpleasant false card from K9x though.