[straube]

You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction.

.........................T972
.........................87643
.........................T5
.........................K4
K6............................................AJ543
J95...........................................K
QJ2..........................................9864
AJ872......................................T93
.........................Q8
.........................AQT2
.........................AK73
.........................Q65

Outcomes

2H S SCREAM
2H S Silent Club
1N S relknes
2H S TOSR
2H S Precision by the_clown
2H S Precision by Free
3H S Zelandakh
2H N jack502
2H S Moscito
3H S Jasmine Club
2H S Unassuming Club
2H S Imprecision
2H S Meckwell Light

3H N Malfoir (1D opening)
2H S Polish Club (1N opening)
2H N Pass200 (forcing pass opening)
2H S New Big Club (HK) (1N opening)
1D S OCP (1D opening) East may balance?

[straube]

straube, on 2013-January-29, 20:34, said:

.........................T972
.........................87643
.........................T5
.........................K4
K6............................................AJ543
J95...........................................K
QJ2..........................................9864
AJ872......................................T93
.........................Q8
.........................AQT2
.........................AK73
.........................Q65

SCREAM bids this...

1C-1S 16+, 0-2 QPs
1N-2C bal or semi-unbal, Stayman
2H

We use the same NT structure for double negatives and semipositives as we do for passed hand situations. I'd recommend this to others.

Fairly boring deal but nice to finally have two double negative hands. I think I'll post the next deal already.

[rbforster]

Silent Club:

1♣-1♦ strong; most 0-7, some GFs
1♥-1♠ art min, waiting; 0-7
1N-2♣ 16-18 bal; stayman
2♥-P

Responser can check for the 4-4 major, and sign off in 2M if no 4-4 fit is found.

[relknes]

straube, on 2013-January-29, 20:34, said:

You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction.

.........................T972
.........................87643
.........................T5
.........................K4
K6............................................AJ543
J95...........................................K
QJ2..........................................9864
AJ872......................................T93
.........................Q8
.........................AQT2
.........................AK73
.........................Q65

1♣ - 1♦
1N - P

Translation:
S: 16+, N: 0-8
S: 16-19 balanced, N: lets play 1N

[relknes]

Quick question about West's pass over the strong 1♣. Might some people, with 12 high card points and a good 5 card suit, overcall 2♣ with the west hand? A lot of people like to compete prety agressively over a strong club, even at unfavorable.

[rbforster]

That doesn't look like a "good" 5 card club suit to me. I'd much sooner overall 1♠ as East after a negative bid than 2♣ as West in a live auction.

[dake50]

Quick question about West's pass over the strong 1♣. Might some people, with 12 high card points and a good 5 card suit, overcall 2♣ with the west hand? A lot of people like to compete prety agressively over a strong club, even at unfavorable.

*** Don't like this suit for 2C. BUT opponents WILL get to 2S or 3C, NOW WHAT???
*** Should we go 3H? North sees shape without defense, yes, this hand.
*** Part of system comparing is "how well placed are we in competition?"
*** What defense/offense inferences are known to your systems? Esp. on this auction?

[FM75]

OCP
Yuck! Vulnerable, I am all over 13-15 1N on this junk. NV, I have 1m as choices!
1♦ - p

probably not playing it here... but it has happened.
Uncontested auction...
OK waiting.
If you have to play in a Burn's Law violation, this is the best level for it.

[Mbodell]

2♥S for tosr

1♣-1♦ : any 16+; 0-7 or occ 8+ with <2 ctls
1nt-2♦ : 16-18 bal; transfer
2♥ : accept

S is close to a super accept. If one of the Q were an K then 2nt to show heart fit, 2 of the top 3 honors, and 2.5 QT outside would be available. But with both black quacks a simple 2♥ is the system and table bid.

[the_clown]

Precision:

1♣-1♦
1♥-1♠
1NT-2♣
2♥

South showing 17-19 bal.

[Hilver]

Hilversumse Klaveren (HK)

1NT - 2♣
2♥

Explanation:

1NT = 16-18 balanced
2♣ = Stayman relay
2♥ = 4/5 card ♥

Jan

[Free]

1C-1D (16+ ; 0-7 any or GF 4441)
1NT-2D (17-18 bal ; transfer)
2H-pass (not worth a super accept imo ; ok)

With 5S-4H we start wit stayman because opener is supposed to correct to 2S with a 3 card. With 5H-4S we just transfer and hope we don't miss our S fit.

[Zelandakh]

1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1♦ = most non-GF
1NT = 15-17 bal or 4414
... - 2♦ = 5+ hearts (pass seems like it should be an alternative)
2NT = 4+ hearts, not 3433 or 4414, max
... - 3♦ = puppet to 3♥
3♥

Do we really believe the opps will not compete if we stop in 2♥ here? It is one thing coming into a live auction but once the opps stop you know partner has some values.

Based on a recent post from Andy (gnasher) it seems that Brits super-accept far more often than Americans. Perhaps this is an example of that.

[jack502]

1♣1♠
1nt 2♥


1♠=dbl negative
1nt 15-20

[hrothgar]

Oops

This post has been edited by hrothgar: 2013-January-30, 08:23

[hrothgar]

MOSCITO auction

1♣ - 1♠ 1♠ = double negative
1N - 2♣ 1N = 15-17 2♣ = Stayman (planning to bid 2♥ over 2♦)
2♥ - Pass

[straube]

FM75, on 2013-January-29, 23:55, said:

OCP
Yuck! Vulnerable, I am all over 13-15 1N on this junk. NV, I have 1m as choices!
1♦ - p

probably not playing it here... but it has happened.
Uncontested auction...
OK waiting.
If you have to play in a Burn's Law violation, this is the best level for it.

Hm. I hadn't considered that possibility because I'm focused on strong club. Akhare said he wouldn't overcall with East's hand against a strong club but this is a balancing situation. My vote is to pass because the opponents obviously have a heart fit and I suspect South has an 18-19 balanced hand. Even if we have a spade fit I think we're outgunned. How do others feel about 1D passed out? Would others balance 1S?

[straube]

Zelandakh, on 2013-January-30, 03:03, said:

1♣ = 15+ nat/bal or 18+ any
... - 1♦ = most non-GF
1NT = 15-17 bal or 4414
... - 2♦ = 5+ hearts (pass seems like it should be an alternative)
2NT = 4+ hearts, not 3433 or 4414, max
... - 3♦ = puppet to 3♥
3♥

Do we really believe the opps will not compete if we stop in 2♥ here? It is one thing coming into a live auction but once the opps stop you know partner has some values.

Based on a recent post from Andy (gnasher) it seems that Brits super-accept far more often than Americans. Perhaps this is an example of that.

I think the opponents pass throughout. I posted East's hand in the comparing systems thread and Akhare wouldn't overcall 1S (confirmed my thought but is their best opportunity imo to enter the auction) and I don't see either opponent wanting to compete at the 2 or 3-level. If others feel differently they can opine.

[Kungsgeten]

straube, on 2013-January-29, 20:34, said:

You are South and dealer. NV vs V. Imps. Uncontested auction.

.........................T972
.........................87643
.........................T5
.........................K4
K6............................................AJ543
J95...........................................K
QJ2..........................................9864
AJ872......................................T93
.........................Q8
.........................AQT2
.........................AK73
.........................Q65

Pass 2000

Again, our auction will not be uncontested (unless they play some kind of defense to our forcing pass, which I guess they do not). Assuming they play some sort of natural system:

P* - (1C) - P - (1S); South's pass is 0-7 or 17+, north's pass assumes the weak hand, and we play our normal defense methods here (fairly standard) but may make tactical bids since partner is usually 0-7 hcp.

Dbl - (P) - 2H - all pass?

[Zelandakh]

How about if West opens a weak 1NT, Kungsgeten?