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1 Club or 2 Clubs? Afraid of being Passed Out?

Poll: 1 or 2 or... (43 member(s) have cast votes)

What do you open?

  1. 1C intending to Jump-Shift or Splinter next bid (36 votes [83.72%])

    Percentage of vote: 83.72%

  2. 2C...only 3 losers (7 votes [16.28%])

    Percentage of vote: 16.28%

  3. 2NT (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

  4. Some other bid (0 votes [0.00%])

    Percentage of vote: 0.00%

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#1 User is offline   JonnyQuest 

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Posted 2012-December-10, 15:43



First Seat, IMP's. Assume 2/1 and no special gadgets (Roman, Rosenkrantz, Multi) to show BIG 3-suiters.

What do you open? What is your planned rebid?
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Posted 2012-December-10, 17:51

1C. Much easier to bid this 3 suiter after a 1 opening rather than after 2C.
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Posted 2012-December-10, 20:30

Is this the hand from the 'when is 2 opening useful?'?

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-December-10, 23:05

If partner can't respond over our 1, then we likely don't have anything. We also have zero problems with rebidding out hand after 1.
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Posted 2012-December-11, 05:41

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-December-10, 20:30, said:

Is this the hand from the 'when is 2 opening useful?'?

That one was considerably stronger - AKQx/AKQx/-/KQJxx from memory.
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Posted 2012-December-11, 06:02

View PostZelandakh, on 2012-December-11, 05:41, said:

That one was considerably stronger - AKQx/AKQx/-/KQJxx from memory.


But that OP said he wasn't quite sure of the hand.

View Postwyman, on 2012-May-04, 09:48, said:

Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


View Postrbforster, on 2012-May-20, 21:04, said:

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Posted 2012-December-19, 08:50

1c for sure. It's probably worth 2c but just barely, and the auction will go so much better after 1c.
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Posted 2012-December-19, 16:53

1 . sure this is 3-loser but if you have no fit and partner can't respond to 1 is more like a 6-loser hand, no intermediates your gonna lose all tricks but your A/K's.
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Posted 2013-January-04, 18:44

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You could add some high cards (K of spades instead of the 2) and I'd still vote the same way. Way easier to start like that. To open 2 is to cater only to that goldilocks situation in which you can make game but partner can't bid over 1. With your actual hand, the chance of that is close to 0.
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Posted 2013-January-06, 14:15

View PostRSClyde, on 2013-January-04, 18:44, said:

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You could add some high cards (K of spades instead of the 2) and I'd still vote the same way. Way easier to start like that. To open 2 is to cater only to that goldilocks situation in which you can make game but partner can't bid over 1. With your actual hand, the chance of that is close to 0.


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Jxxxx
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Qxx
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or Jxxx xx xx xxxxx (maybe weak 3c over 1)
heck, even Txx Qxx Kxx xxxx

or J10xx xx xxxxxx x
or xx Qxxx Qxxxx xx
or Jxx x QJ10xxx xxx (3NT! :o )
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