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〖估值技术〗这牌我该继续叫牌吗?

#1 User is offline   lycier 

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Posted 2012-September-09, 11:17



这是半夜在俱乐部里的一副牌。北家是沙漏,南家是我。
现在轮到我了,我该继续叫牌吗?如果继续,怎样叫呢?

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Posted 2012-September-09, 21:07

北家X,这牌一定有额外的点力,好牌。这牌不满足于4H,南家继续4S扣叫,北家4NT问叫
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Posted 2012-September-10, 10:51

这牌,我还是强烈呼吁,应叫人第二口,叫3D,用跳叫新花,来显示不叫过的牌,安全保障的牌力来源就是:自己的长套加对开叫花色的最低的支持!
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Posted 2012-September-10, 20:54

如果说4D保证有S的控制,不用叫牌了,
扣叫进程是否保证同伴花色的控制,PD之间应首先协商,没有协商的,还是继续叫牌。
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Posted 2012-September-10, 22:13

北家加倍和4扣叫,已经表明额外实力,只要配置好就可能有满贯,继续扣叫4S,看看情况,不行就停在5
要是5打不成的话,运气太差了
要是PD叫牌比较激进的话,这时4H可以停叫
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Posted 2012-September-11, 02:54

没有什么道理再叫,因为1N是限制性的,作跳叫3H和4D扣叫(也是同伴期待的),还是回到4H,开叫人属于中性牌,可能缺张多余2个。
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Posted 2012-September-14, 20:47

我认为不能再叫了,前面两口已经把牌力及H的支持叫清楚了,同伴自己回到了4H,应该停叫。若是试贯,也应该由同伴先发起。
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Posted 2012-September-16, 23:16

跳叫3H和4D扣叫,应叫人已经叫足了;优点是有个不错的6张套,缺点是牌型平均每门花色都有输墩

有一点看不太明白,开叫人加倍2C是惩罚,后面又扣叫4C,他的牌点在哪里, 感觉他有点象18-19均型吧
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Posted 2012-September-16, 23:57

南家可能是6331或6322型如,H:AKQxxx,S:Q(x)xx,D:KQX,C:X(A),南家继续4S扣叫,由北家发动4NT问叫 。
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Posted 2012-September-17, 01:06

请问一下北这个加倍是什么意思呢?是惩罚性还是示强?

还有一定不明白,如果北没有满贯意图,为什么要扣叫梅花,而不直接封4呢?
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Posted 2012-September-17, 05:48

View Postlycier, on 2012-September-09, 11:17, said:



这是半夜在俱乐部里的一副牌。北家是沙漏,南家是我。
现在轮到我了,我该继续叫牌吗?如果继续,怎样叫呢?





想过没,为啥同伴先加倍后又开叫4?而在我3后,同伴继续扣叫4意欲何为?我有2枚A和长套,且该套是A打头,那么在同伴一声4狮吼下,我的一手牌呀变得价值连城了,A是绝对硬实力代表,比表明的价值有时候大多了,这副牌就是这种情况。那么,当同伴4后,我有绝对控制,我们最大的隐忧是我们的将牌强度问题,我仅仅是3张小,于是乎,这时候我知道用4nt做RKCB已经无济于事了,直接作自愿5应叫!沙漏这时非常愉快地接受了邀请,毫不犹豫地冲上了6!敌方首攻4,沙漏一气呵成,轻松超一完成。
这就是一手牌的估值技术。这些知识无不位列大多数体系中的第一章第一节,似乎人人都学习了,似乎很简单!不不不,这是最深奥的核心技术。
马蒂·伯根说:任何人只要你发现估值技术哪怕是少份特殊规律,都会大大提高你的牌技水平,不论你是那一级牌手!

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Posted 2012-September-17, 06:06

View Postlycier, on 2012-September-17, 05:48, said:

这就是一手牌的估值技术。这些知识无不位列大多数体系中的第一章第一节,似乎人人都学习了,似乎很简单!不不不,这是最深奥的核心技术。
马蒂·伯根说:任何人只要你发现估值技术哪怕是少份特殊规律,都会大大提高你的牌技水平,不论你是那一级牌手!



以具体牌例来说明一个技术,这是难得的学习机会。谢谢版主!
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Posted 2012-September-17, 06:06

叫的不错! :rolleyes:
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Posted 2012-September-17, 16:58

W家争叫2C及N家扣出DA后,S家牌力大大提升,这我们学习牌力估值技术的好牌例。
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Posted 2012-September-17, 21:29

现代体系里,5H已经不是这个意义了。
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Posted 2012-September-18, 00:33

楼主讲了攻的方面,俺从防的方面说说。
“佩服”西争叫2c,将牌如此的差!如不争叫,南北是否也能痛快地叫上满贯呢,争叫的目的有哪些,如没有这些目的,那叫牌是什么意思?
此牌也说明桥牌是玩机会的游戏,南北叫上6h是抓住了opp暴露牌情的机会。
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Posted 2012-September-18, 22:03

这个牌主要是W家得吸取教训,拿着级别最低C套本身就该是受气的牌,再加上这样垃圾的套,去争叫帮不了同伴,反而会帮倒忙了:lol:
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Posted 2012-September-20, 21:50

适用于这种估值技术的反面牌例,如果在实战中遇到,也请拿来大家学习,以便更加深刻理解这种技术--确实是一门高级技术。
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Posted 2012-September-21, 01:11

这样的牌张分布,任何首攻都是7,7NT也是没问题的,但W争叫2(不怎么合格,无局捣浆糊)使你叫不到
7这一阶 :rolleyes:
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Posted 2012-September-26, 02:10

View Postchinalxm, on 2012-September-18, 22:03, said:

这个牌主要是W家得吸取教训,拿着级别最低C套本身就该是受气的牌,再加上这样垃圾的套,去争叫帮不了同伴,反而会帮倒忙了:lol:

确实,多少书中说了过,不要拿KXXXX的套去2阶争叫,无谓把你K暴露了,除非你是暴露狂,呵呵.
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