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How to come up to the 6D slam bidding

#1 User is offline   yin970902 

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Posted 2012-July-02, 17:52


Play 2/1.
I take up the 20HTCP to bid 1 after 3 Pass.
I don't think it is good as 1(1)5(pass)6////.
The auction maybe is 5,do you think so?
If you,how to come up to the slam 6 accurately rather than roughly?
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Posted 2012-July-02, 18:02

I think 1(1)5(Pa)6 is the best you can come up with. By going slow you might find the opponents pre-empt you, taking away space from you.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2012-July-02, 18:20

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-02, 18:02, said:

By going slow you might find the opponents pre-empt you, taking away space from you.


By jumping 4 levels of bidding you guarantee the space is taken away.
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Posted 2012-July-02, 18:27

View Postsfi, on 2012-July-02, 18:20, said:

By jumping 4 levels of bidding you guarantee the space is taken away.


Right. Is it better for West to Key-Card over 2 from East over a heart support from South? I guess, but East won't be bidding 5 with J/T sixth and nothing else, so 6 is not that crazy.

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Also, he rates to not have a heart void when he leads the 3.


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Posted 2012-July-02, 18:48

prefer 2h not 5d as a passed hand.

I could hardly have more as a passed hand.
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Posted 2012-July-02, 19:13

Tricky hand here.

1D bid - good, avoided a silly 2 opener that some would open out of fear.

5D bid - very hard and somewhat a practical bid. You don't know that the K is a prime card and that your club holding is dreamy.

I would bid 2 to begin with. I have a distributional limit raise here with lots of diamonds. Pard being in 4th seat has sound values. After this, then you can cuebid your way into the correct contact.
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Posted 2012-July-02, 19:38

View PostHanoi5, on 2012-July-02, 18:27, said:

Right. Is it better for West to Key-Card over 2 from East over a heart support from South? I guess, but East won't be bidding 5 with J/T sixth and nothing else, so 6 is not that crazy.


I'm not arguing that a 5D bid should have worked (a raise is clear IMO). I was pointing out that your statement about risking preemption is not valid if the alternative is doing it to yourself voluntarily.
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Posted 2012-July-03, 04:27

We would start 1-(1)-2 inverted, our agreement is that this shows 10 points with 4 or 9 points with 5, 8 points with 7 should do, and partner won't go nuts opposite a passed hand. The danger with 5 at these colours is that partner thinks you have rather less high cards.
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Posted 2012-July-03, 08:43

I wouldn't have bid 5 but here that should have made it really easy on west to bid slam! Partner just jumped to FIVE diamonds vul, I'm not sure I've even seen that bid before!
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Posted 2012-July-03, 08:56

View Postlalldonn, on 2012-July-03, 08:43, said:

I wouldn't have bid 5 but here that should have made it really easy on west to bid slam! Partner just jumped to FIVE diamonds vul, I'm not sure I've even seen that bid before!

Partner jumped to 5 white v red, opps were vul.
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Posted 2012-July-04, 21:00

Given the 5 bid, we're looking at 6 cover cards including the AKQ of trumps. Partner's 5 level jump rais all but promises 7 cards in s or additional values. I think 6 is right

As others above, I prefer 2 LR+ instead of 5.
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Posted 2012-July-04, 22:44

I would certainly bid 6D over 5.
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Posted 2012-July-05, 14:09

I would not bid 6d after 5d any finesses needed rate to be wrong but i also disagree
with the 5d bid

if playing inverted minors 2d a much better bid that 5d (which should be weaker)

if not playing inverted minors a 2h start is much better showing a limit raise in dia.

assuming the bidding starts

1d 1h 2h (limit raise)
3h by me asking for a heart stopper
when p cannot show a heart stopper 6d is a standout since p has to have almost all of the
remaining hcp (outside of hearts) to begin with a 2h bid
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