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#1 User is offline   Phil 

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Posted 2012-June-14, 08:54

9xx KQxxx xx AJx

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(1) - 1 - (2) - ?

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Posted 2012-June-14, 08:56

3D (just)

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Posted 2012-June-14, 08:58

2 is enough for me.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 08:59

I would also have bid 2.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:10

2 here too -- we overcall pretty aggressively.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:12

3D. But then I like to overbid hands like this too much.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:13

2 from me.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:16

2 for me. As declarer, I am always disappointed to see three small trumps in a dummy that gave me a limit raise.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:17

View Postahydra, on 2012-June-14, 08:56, said:

3D (just)

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Surely if you're willing to raise to the 3 level 3H is a better bid? IMHO it's close and I'd just make a competitive three card raise
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Posted 2012-June-14, 09:42

View PostCthulhu D, on 2012-June-14, 09:17, said:

Surely if you're willing to raise to the 3 level 3H is a better bid? IMHO it's close and I'd just make a competitive three card raise


Valid point - a bit light for a fitjump for me, but some pairs might play fitjumps like that.

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Posted 2012-June-14, 10:29

2
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Posted 2012-June-14, 11:04


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Posted 2012-June-14, 11:16

View Postgordontd, on 2012-June-14, 09:13, said:

2 from me.

And me.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 11:17

2S > 3H > 2H >>> anything else I can think of.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 11:24

3 is misdescriptive, 2 is possible but kind of silly IMO, partner will pass even with 5-1 in the majors and very often with 5-2. Looks too good for 2 so 3 it is. The answers here are a bit shocking to me.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 11:38

If you're going to bid 3D you might as well start with double
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Posted 2012-June-14, 11:53

I FORGOT DOUBLE yes that's a good idea. The prior answers are still weird to me.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 12:04

View Postlalldonn, on 2012-June-14, 11:53, said:

I FORGOT DOUBLE yes that's a good idea. The prior answers are still weird to me.


Was running out of breath waiting for MY answer. OK, you double. LHO reraises to 3.

You done or are you going to compete to 3?
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Posted 2012-June-14, 12:10

To me if you are going to double, you are committing yourself to bidding 3 spades. You're treating your hand as an invitational 3 card raise (ie driving to 3S) and trying to keep hearts into play. Doubling and passing just means you never showed 3 spades or invitational values. Partner might have 6 spades and pass 3 diamonds for instance since he doesn't know about your third spade.

That said, I am always leery of arguments like that, with new information it is always rational to be able to change your plan I don't really see why this would cause us to do so though, so I still think the options are bidding 2S immediately or doubling and bidding 3S.
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Posted 2012-June-14, 12:15

View PostJLOGIC, on 2012-June-14, 12:10, said:

To me if you are going to double, you are committing yourself to bidding 3 spades. You're treating your hand as an invitational 3 card raise (ie driving to 3S) and trying to keep hearts into play. Doubling and passing just means you never showed 3 spades or invitational values. Partner might have 6 spades and pass 3 diamonds for instance since he doesn't know about your third spade.

That said, I am always leery of arguments like that, with new information it is always rational to be able to change your plan I don't really see why this would cause us to do so though, so I still think the options are bidding 2S immediately or doubling and bidding 3S.


The entire hand was something like:




3 is such a moronic call. Would have loved to rip it.
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