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#1 User is offline   mgoetze 

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Posted 2012-May-19, 17:12


"One of the painful things about our time is that those who feel certainty are stupid, and those with any imagination and understanding are filled with doubt and indecision"
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Posted 2012-May-19, 22:01

Am I directionally challenged? Or did I overcall in my void?
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Posted 2012-May-19, 22:16

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-May-19, 22:01, said:

Am I directionally challenged? Or did I overcall in my void?

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Posted 2012-May-19, 23:30

Assuming I'm North, I think I will sit for this - there's no guarantee that 3minor will play any better. Hopefully partner wasn't messing about at this vulnerability.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 00:48

View Postaguahombre, on 2012-May-19, 22:01, said:

Am I directionally challenged? Or did I overcall in my void?

Sorry, gwnn insisted I rotate the hand for your convenience at it was past 1 AM. ;) Fixed now.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 00:54

2nt it is after 1 am here into the fire.....

sure 2h may play better than 3 ofminor but.....it is 2 am.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 08:50

at MP I would xx figuring if we are getting slaughtered
it doesn't hurt for it to maybe be a bit worse if p has
to leave it in and who knows maybe 3 of a minor wont be x:)))

at IMPS I must pass since the hand figures to play badly at 3
of a minor even if we have a fit. xx if p leaves it in is
turning a poor score into a catastrophe if p has to leave it in.

do not bid 2n here that shows values. xx is the only way to warn p
of impending doom and desire to play in a minor.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 09:17

View Postgszes, on 2012-May-20, 08:50, said:

at MP I would xx figuring if we are getting slaughtered
it doesn't hurt for it to maybe be a bit worse if p has
to leave it in and who knows maybe 3 of a minor wont be x:)))

at IMPS I must pass since the hand figures to play badly at 3
of a minor even if we have a fit. xx if p leaves it in is
turning a poor score into a catastrophe if p has to leave it in.

do not bid 2n here that shows values. xx is the only way to warn p
of impending doom and desire to play in a minor.

+1 on Paragraph two above. (Wouldn't do your MP recommendation with this hand, but it is close, IMO.)

Disagree on the last paragraph. Values are not a consideration, IMO. 2NT would be a run-out with extreme minor-suit distribution, not 4-4. Redouble is an accident waiting to happen.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 15:09

Yeah, it's disconcerting looking at a void opposite partner's overcall. But, if you take a call are you likely to improve the result any? There's no guarantee partner has any good fit for your minors. At a minimum, you're increasing the level of the contract or the cost of the set by doing anything except pass.

On a good day, however, you might just find partner with something like AKJ9876 where the damage can be minimized even though there's a trump stack behind him.

If partner can hold the damage to down 1 or 2, you might not be too badly off versus, say, 3 NT making their way.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 16:42

I don't think you are supposed to run.
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Posted 2012-May-20, 17:45

I don't think we will get away with 3m undoubled. Partner probably has shortness in , but chose not to double, so should have good . Sit, but It's close.
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Posted 2012-May-21, 03:57

I know people where you better run now. But I do not partner them that often (everyone just once), so this looks like a clear pass.
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Posted 2012-May-21, 23:40

This shows why you need a good suit to overcall at the two-level vulnerable. In my first month of playing bridge I was 22 and overcalled on something like Q2 QT652 Q653 KJ [I was told, "10 HCP to overcall, 12 HCP to open..."] - this exact auction happened - and I went for Newcastle (Australians will figure out this meant I didn't make a trick). I think I cried. But I learned the lesson and started having my bid when vulnerable! Of course pass is right - and if pard goes for a postcode then you should hang onto him cause he will have learned his lesson and won't ever do it again ...
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