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4063 over 1H

Poll: 4063 over 1H (53 member(s) have cast votes)

Which action is better?

  1. Double (32 votes [60.38%])

    Percentage of vote: 60.38%

  2. 2D (19 votes [35.85%])

    Percentage of vote: 35.85%

  3. Both are equally good (2 votes [3.77%])

    Percentage of vote: 3.77%

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#1 User is offline   Poky 

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Posted 2012-April-30, 14:26


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Posted 2012-April-30, 15:00

I will try bidding my longest suit first so 2d

I may be able to double hearts later for takeout to show my spades.
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Posted 2012-April-30, 15:16

Is ELC available? Assuming neither, 2 seems obvious, planning to reopen later.

I assume that I can ignore the possible Raptor, MAFia, Canape Overcalls, and the like, or this would be stated.
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Posted 2012-April-30, 16:13

I do overcall with very strong hands, playing this style i cant really overcall 2 and then double at high level. I say high level because i am expecting some serious preempt most of the time. If we are going to compete vs hearts i want to keep suit in the picture from the start, not later. This hand would not make its way to forums if we changed a diamond to hearts. I admit though it is close decision and i can see other aproach being the winner. But my choice is definetely DBL.
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Posted 2012-April-30, 17:40

Here is my two cents' worth:

The two choices are not equally good. That would imply that it doesn't matter which one we choose, and IMHO one or the other will work out better over the long run.

ELC probably won't be a factor; if I double and (2H) 3C (P) comes back around, I won't use ELC. A mere 2C advance by CHO I would pull to 2D, but that isn't going to happen.

So, considering what is likely to happen next, do we want to show a six-bagger? I think we do; some of the times we fear losing a spade fit might not be a problem because of responsive doubles, snappish doubles, fit showing advances, and freebids.

I won't be delighted if pard leaves 1HX in, either....but, nah, that won't happen. So, it is just a choice between two reasonable approaches.
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Posted 2012-May-01, 04:21

I almost always double with 3163 si this is a no brainer for me.
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Posted 2012-May-01, 09:35

dbl. No 2nd choice.
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Posted 2012-May-01, 13:05

View PostPoky, on 2012-April-30, 14:26, said:


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Dbl, if I decide to correct 2C to 2D and we are not playing ELC, then np, I certainly have some extras. Of course I might then have to pull 3H doubled to 4C but at imps that is probably not a big deal. This is a no-brainer when you consider risk vs gain.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 05:21

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When no known great fit, suggest the safety/competition of the longest suit. And if opps discover good heart fit, I am competing with dbls all the way to 4 level.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 06:45

I would X 1/2/3/4

No other choice seems good
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Posted 2012-May-18, 15:49

get me the spade J and dia T and i would bid 2d

I do not have sufficient suit quality to bid 4s
if the opps go to 4h (much less double again)

I therefore opt for the most flexible bid i can make
at this time and hope we dont end up in 1h x:)
If p bids 2c i can stand it.
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Posted 2012-May-18, 16:28

At imps you cant afford to sell out to 4H without showing the S. So either you bid 2D planning to X all the way up to 4H, risking 4Hx making, or you X at the 1 level. The thing you must avoid imo is 2D followed by a pass of 4H.

I like to play a style where we dont like to X with voids and we are agressive at passing doubles. So here its safer if we X first. But playing a more standard style I would overcall 2D since even if my hand is minimum I like being on lead with AKx of clubs for defending 4Hx.
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Posted 2012-May-18, 17:57

I like 2H even with only 4xS. I have a void after all.
I'll rebid 2D/3D if given a chance.
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Posted 2012-May-18, 22:17

I would double with this and this is also a no brainer for me.
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Posted 2012-May-18, 22:27

View Postkenrexford, on 2012-April-30, 15:16, said:

Is ELC available? Assuming neither, 2 seems obvious, planning to reopen later.

I assume that I can ignore the possible Raptor, MAFia, Canape Overcalls, and the like, or this would be stated.


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Posted 2012-May-19, 00:04

Easy Dbl imo
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Posted 2012-May-19, 01:23

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