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Posted 2012-May-17, 12:33

Any links to (or books discussing) Slawinski leads?
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Posted 2012-May-17, 12:38

Double post.

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Posted 2012-May-17, 12:39

Is This what you are looking for?

Or maybe it's This?

Seriously, have people gotten THAT lazy where they won't do a simple search, like 'Slawinski leads + bridge'???
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Posted 2012-May-17, 12:49

Thanks. I did Google it and found something, but not this site.
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Posted 2012-May-17, 14:45

What is interesting is that actually system recommended by Slawinsky is different than the one used by Fantoni-Nunes but it is described as "Slawinsky leads" on their card.
I will ask him about it or if he has any idea why they call their system "Slawinsky lead".
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Posted 2012-May-17, 14:57

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-May-17, 14:45, said:

What is interesting is that actually system recommended by Slawinsky is different than the one used by Fantoni-Nunes but it is described as "Slawinsky leads" on their card.
I will ask him about it or if he has any idea why they call their system "Slawinsky lead".

Aren't the F-N leads mentioned in the Systems in Defence book as an interesting experiment? They certainly follow his idea of the mixed signal and just using it as a lead.

I always think F-N leads are the bridge equivalent of writing in the margin that you've solved Fermat's Last Theorem but there is no space for the proof. Probably just me.
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Posted 2012-May-17, 15:00

View Postpaulg, on 2012-May-17, 14:57, said:

Aren't the F-N leads mentioned in the Systems in Defence book as an interesting experiment? They certainly follow his idea of the mixed signal and just using it as a lead.

I always think F-N leads are the bridge equivalent of writing in the margin that you've solved Fermat's Last Theorem but there is no space for the proof. Probably just me.

You aren't alone in that thought :D.

BTW, don't they lead second best from KXXX as well? As I recall, the note in the margin called for 3rd and 5th from HXX(XX) and top / second from odd sequence without H..
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Posted 2012-May-17, 15:13

Next time I am bored I will write first lead table generator from vugraph hands. I did some preparatory work for this today to see what Meckwell leads from KQ short middle hand (it was in fact K every time it occurred in vugraph), reverse engineer Fantunes leads is next :)
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Posted 2012-May-17, 15:37

View Postakhare, on 2012-May-17, 15:00, said:

You aren't alone in that thought :D.

BTW, don't they lead second best from KXXX as well? As I recall, the note in the margin called for 3rd and 5th from HXX(XX) and top / second from odd sequence without H..


Yeah, I saw that, too. Second from Hxxx
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Posted 2012-May-17, 16:06

View Postbluecalm, on 2012-May-17, 15:13, said:

Next time I am bored I will write first lead table generator from vugraph hands. I did some preparatory work for this today to see what Meckwell leads from KQ short middle hand (it was in fact K every time it occurred in vugraph), reverse engineer Fantunes leads is next :)

Looking at leads in the middle of the hand, some pairs lead differently when they break a new suit through declarer. Just to complicate matters :)
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Posted 2012-May-18, 03:01

I've played 2/4 through declarer and 3/5 through dummy, it felt very natural.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.

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Posted 2012-May-18, 07:00

I've played 2/4 through declarer and 3/5 through dummy, it felt very natural.

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Ignore the top honor. Lead as your spot length agreement.
Eg. K742 leads 2 as from 742 - 3-spots;
K74 leads 7 as if 74 doubleton spots.
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Posted 2012-May-18, 07:46

View Posthan, on 2012-May-18, 03:01, said:

I've played 2/4 through declarer and 3/5 through dummy, it felt very natural.


2/4 = Polish leads?

We briefly played Slawinski [mixed] during the hand as well as on opening lead, the biggest problems with it would have been solved by playing attitude through declarer.
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Posted 2012-May-18, 10:13

View Postdake50, on 2012-May-18, 07:00, said:

Ignore the top honor. Lead as your spot length agreement.
Eg. K742 leads 2 as from 742 - 3-spots;
K74 leads 7 as if 74 doubleton spots.


dake50 / hanp,

Is this part of the Polish 2/4th while leading through declarer? If so, it looks like the near-inverse of leading Slawinski (mixed) through declarer:

K742: Lead 2
742: Lead 7
K74: Lead 4

Mickyb said:

We briefly played Slawinski [mixed] during the hand as well as on opening lead, the biggest problems with it would have been solved by playing attitude through declarer.


Can you elaborate a little more?
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