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I know the rule "dont rebid 5 card minors" but is this the time to break that rule?
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Posted 2012-May-11, 01:10
I know the rule "dont rebid 5 card minors" but is this the time to break that rule?
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Posted 2012-May-11, 01:57
I don't know that rule, but I would never bid 2D here, nor any other number of diamonds. They are vulnerable, let's defend 1NT.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-May-11, 03:51
Annoying as it is, I think you've gotta pass. Clearly partner has almost nothing, and West already bid your 2nd suit.
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Posted 2012-May-12, 05:04
If you want to bid again, you have an obvious dble to show a good hand. Dbling here after an overcall is more along the lines of "maximum overcall" than a true t/o double, so i think xx hearts is fine.
OTOH, this seems like a pretty good time to pass.
OTOH, this seems like a pretty good time to pass.
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Posted 2012-May-12, 09:30
We don't have a fit and don't have a game, no reason to be aggressive - if we can make something, they are down in a vulnerable 1NT as Han said.
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Posted 2012-May-12, 12:32
If partner has anything why would we try for +90 against our +100 or +200 right here? +90 against vul opponents at mp's is such an irritating score I never volunteer it if I have a choice.
If partner doesn't have anything we are going for anything from -100 to -500 against a very possible -90.
If partner doesn't have anything we are going for anything from -100 to -500 against a very possible -90.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 04:59
phil_20686, on 2012-May-12, 05:04, said:
If you want to bid again, you have an obvious dble to show a good hand. Dbling here after an overcall is more along the lines of "maximum overcall" than a true t/o double, so i think xx hearts is fine.
I completely disagree with all of this.
Please note: I am interested in boring, bog standard, 2/1.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 07:22
Wisely or not, I did bid again.
2♠ -1or2
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Posted 2012-May-14, 08:45
The 2♦ rebid seems to have no effect on the final contract.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 09:35
Phil, on 2012-May-14, 08:45, said:
The 2♦ rebid seems to have no effect on the final contract.
Yes, true. That was not really the reason for the post, I felt my 2♦ bid was dubious.
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Posted 2012-May-14, 11:21
Seems declarer should make 2 spades. You can tap declarer 3 times and generate an extra trump trick for yourself, but then you get tapped in clubs and they only lose 3 trumps and 2 diamonds. Must have gotten help from a creative declarer.
As Phil noted, no effect on final contract. The admonition about not rebidding 5-cd minor is about rebidding after opening a minor, when your opening only promised 3. It goes double after an overcall, which already promised 5!
As Phil noted, no effect on final contract. The admonition about not rebidding 5-cd minor is about rebidding after opening a minor, when your opening only promised 3. It goes double after an overcall, which already promised 5!
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Posted 2012-May-14, 15:48
jillybean, on 2012-May-14, 09:35, said:
Yes, true. That was not really the reason for the post, I felt my 2♦ bid was dubious.
I agree and would've passed rather than 2♦
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